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re: Does anyone here actually believe this “Q” bullshite

Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

I'm trying not to argue...
But we can't agree on definition of terms prior to a discussion, so we can't have a discussion about any further topics because of bias.

So because some of us classify it as a conspiracy theory and some of us don't, we can't have a conversation about Q? I don't understand why not. The facts stand by themselves.
Posted by BMouzone
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:27 pm to
There's no real point in discussing the "Q" thing because the people who believe it will always find a reason why all the reasons that it's ridiculous are fake. When it's built into your theory that the deep state is going to try and discredit your theory, all contrary evidence is just a deep state plant or something.
Posted by reddy tiger
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:30 pm to
Tangent: This is also why it's useless to argue with a religious person.

ETA: Except Satan and his minions standing for the deep state.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 12:48 pm
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:50 pm to
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So because some of us classify it as a conspiracy theory


So you are conspiracy theorists?
Such a strange twist. Earlier, that label was being tossed around and then articles claiming conspiracy theorists live in fantasy land were posted.
I'm not asking you to defend yourself, just pointing out others would think that of you.

I'm saying there is no "theory" and I don't know what crimes Q might have committed...maybe harassing Michael Avenati?
Leaking classifieds? Maybe?
There are claims, and many stateside claims have been false. Then again, many of the foreign claims, BUT notably ambiguous, have occurred. I'm not making any claims, I just follow it.

I'm more than willing to discuss any of it.
I think the Q clock is fantastical, but some posts line up with each other...
Some of the memes are reaching, but several subjects are very real, the DoJ did have to hire hundreds more US Attorneys and the PACER program is being heavily populated.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:50 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 12:53 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:10 pm to


I'm saying that whether or not I think it's a conspiracy theory is irrelevant to the facts and I'm not sure why you're so hung up on it. It certainly doesn't prevent discussion.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

There's no real point in discussing the "Q" thing because the people who believe it will always find a reason why all the reasons that it's ridiculous are fake. When it's built into your theory that the deep state is going to try and discredit your theory, all contrary evidence is just a deep state plant or something.

I'm fully aware that IceTiger is not going to change his mind regardless of the facts presented. I'm engaging him in discussion to further my understanding of Qanon.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:15 pm to
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It certainly doesn't prevent discussion


Well let's get on with the topics/subjects!
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:15 pm to
tom hanks guzzles semen
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:18 pm to
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Well let's get on with the topics/subjects!

That's what I've been saying repeatedly.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:19 pm to
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I'm fully aware that IceTiger is not going to change his mind regardless of the facts presented


What fact? That Q has made claims and they didn't occur?

I concede that.

My mind isn't set on anything, there are things that actually happen that Q posts about...then other things he says are ambiguous, yet others false.

He posts a bunch of articles.

The Joe Friday stuff.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:21 pm to
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That's what I've been saying repeatedly


This guy tracks all posts, news links and PACER submissions...
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:23 pm to
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First of all, there are and always have been pedofile rings for the elite. The current revolutions in the UK prove that without any doubt, Sandusky was running one at Penn State, too (Search my old post about the topic if you want more info)


Exactly. That is part of what makes Q believable.

quote:

And the (((Rothchilds))) are the inspiration for every story you probably have heard about the Illuminati.


A lot of them because they have been in power for hundreds of years, it is part of what makes Q believable.

quote:

Also, this narrative about conspiracies being almost impossible to pull off and exist is total bullshite or “fake news” for your trumpers.


Agreed, they are not that hard to pull off and do exist and is part of what makes Q believable.

quote:

But, Tom Hanks and all our current living presidents being part of a global pedofile ring that runs the deep state and is being outing by some insider called “ Q” that is going to be wiped out by Trump?


No I don't think Tom Hanks and President Trump are members of a pedophile group and that Trump is going to wipe himself out.

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I mean there is better evidence HRC is a reptilian alien.


Link?



Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:28 pm to
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What happens if FISA fails or 'signers' cannot be trusted?
Who signed the CP FISA?
How do you keep something SECURE & SAFEGUARDED when those at the top of ABC depts are CORRUPT and being REMOVED?
LINK
LINK
PATRIOTS ONE AND ALL.
Q


Here's one of Q's latest posts...
Just pointing out stuff that's out there...

And taking shots at people that signed the Carter Page FISA used to spy on Trump Towers.

Nothing especially notable, most of his posts are like this.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 1:31 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

My mind isn't set on anything, there are things that actually happen that Q posts about...then other things he says are ambiguous, yet others false.

Ok, well this has bothered me for half the thread. You've admitted repeatedly that Q is wrong as often as he's right, his postings are ambiguous and can be applied to multiple situations. When pressed for an example of his accuracy you chose a "prediction" which you yourself admitted was "super vague"(Flood is coming).

So, believing all that, why do you lend any credibility to Q at all. Do you just "want to believe"? Or are you just waffling when your "evidence" is refuted?
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:39 pm to
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you lend any credibility to Q at all.


Did you see the LINK above...that's why I follow it.

There are 43,000+ sealed documents, 1,000s of which will be indictments.

When Holder was in office, there were a couple dozen indictments of this per year, meanwhile the shite was going on wholesale. Now there are thousands of public indictments...
NXIVM was a result of those unsealed indictments, and like I said Bronfman was taken down.
It's a better follow than binging crime shows, and most events are connected, like Uranium One, Russians, Corporations, etc.


Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:48 pm to
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Or are you just waffling when your "evidence" is refuted?


I picked the vague things to point out the "prediction" aspect that people on the outside looking in is there, but it's vague.
That's not what people following Q focus on, though. It doesn't even matter who Q is. That's also not what people focus on.

People that follow Q are watching crimes unfold and be addressed.

The "flood is coming" isnt disproven...it's just not super specific...
It could lead one to believe Q knew about the FBI email titled "flood is coming" before the email was released to the public...
The subject is referring to a media blast against Trump.
Qs post is referring to FBI corruption.

So, it's not right or wrong, just ambiguous.


Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:51 pm to
the entire Q thing has basically turned into a "as long as it starts a conversation" defense

Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:52 pm to
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The "flood is coming" isnt disproven...it's just not super specific...

This is the kind of thing Pecker was referring to. If the prediction is so vague that it can apply to almost anything, it isn't worth a damn.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

the entire Q thing has basically turned into a "as long as it starts a conversation" defense


Yep.

The conversation is fine, but the idea that Q is some internal government employee with top of the line clearance is horseshite. Hell, there is no evidence that Q knows anything that isn't already publically available.
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