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That clever Chip Kelly saved four points in an 18-point loss

Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Mrwhodat
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Darin Gantt on November 7, 2016, 1:15 PM EST

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The 49ers made one of the smartest defensive plays of the season yesterday.

Of course, if they were a little less clever, they might not have lost by 18.

Via Matt Maiocco of CSNBayArea.com, the 49ers did a very aware and heady thing yesterday, which might have saved them some points.

In short, the 49ers committed premeditated penalties (plural) to burn time and cost the Saints a shot at the end zone just before halftime.

With eight seconds left, three 49ers defenders just grabbed Saints receivers and hugged them as soon as they stepped away from the line. Safety Eric Reid took it a step beyond, tackling Saints tight end Coby Fleener. In case you don’t have your rulebook handy, that’s illegal.

But it was of little harm, because it burned four seconds, and moved the ball from the 49ers’ 13-yard line to the 8-yard line. The Saints settled for a field goal just before the half, and ended up winning 41-23. But it was smart because it kept them from having a chance at a touchdown.

“We practice all sorts of scenarios at the end of the first half and the end of the game,” 49ers coach Chip Kelly said. “So we got flagged for a penalty there, which is a 5-yard penalty and then they kicked a field goal. They were [already] in field-goal range.

Kelly said the 49ers had worked on such situations in practice, saying: “There’s a lot of things that we practice in practice that cross our minds.”

Now if he could only come up with a brilliant plan which would prevent his defense from playing two extra games’ worth of snaps in half a season, he might be onto something.

And it’s also the kind of blatant display which could catch the attention of the league’s competition committee, and prevent such chess moves by blatantly overmatched teams in the future.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90437 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:28 pm to
It was bush league.

League should change the rules. There is no way in hell that a team should benefit from committing penalties like that.
Posted by The 25 Jersey
Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2007
1345 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:30 pm to
It's not bush league, it's just a bad rule. Hopefully in the offseason, they'll change the rule to add time back on the clock as if there was no play.
Posted by fladohado
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
2842 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:31 pm to
I was laughing my arse off when the refs were calling the holding penalties and it felt like it was never ending
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11583 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:32 pm to
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it's just a bad rule
Agreed. I was not mad at Chip for exploiting it. I was actually surprised no one beat Chip to it.

I was also ok with it because SF didn't go overboard with it. Even Reid's tackle was not vicious...just a fundamental put him on the ground play.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112198 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:32 pm to
Giants won the 2012 Super Bowl like this

They just sent out 12 defenders every play while the Pats were trying to get down the field to win the game. They gained an extra defender every play, which limited the other teams ability to get down the field, and all they gave up was 5 years however the play clock continued to roll through all this


They later changed the rule to say that 12 men on the field was a dead ball foul to prevent that kind of thing

Competition committee will have to get more creative with this one
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14088 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:34 pm to
It was actually a pretty smart thing to do. That being said, I can't see that being legal for much longer. They'll change the rule if teams keep doing it.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 3:59 pm
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:35 pm to
In this case, why not just allow the offense to get the time put back on the clock.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90437 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:37 pm to
Yea this will be exploited now for the rest of the year if a team needs to go down the length of the field in the last 20-30 seconds. Just have guys hold and give up 5 yards every play along with 7-10 seconds
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:39 pm to
EASIEST way to fix those kind of penalties:

If the defense commits a penalty in the last two minutes of a half with the clock running the offense gets the next down to be untimed.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11583 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:40 pm to
1 free untimed play, then return to the game clock?

I like it.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90437 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:41 pm to
It should be that the offense can accept the penalty and the time be put on the clock.
Posted by Let Me Take A Selfie
Member since Aug 2014
2622 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:41 pm to
Should've been called for being a palpably unfair act and the refs should've given us the TD
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:41 pm to
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In this case, why not just allow the offense to get the time put back on the clock.



While logical you then have to waste time to go back and check how much time was on the clock when the ball was snapped.

One untimed down will make defenses stop all that kind of bullshite in the last two minutes of a half.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 12:42 pm
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:43 pm to
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1 free untimed play, then return to the game clock?

I like it.



Yes just as if the clock had run out and you get a free down.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:44 pm to
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It should be that the offense can accept the penalty and the time be put on the clock.


Then the ref has to stop the game and go check what the clock needs to be reset to.

We already have enough stoppages during games. No thanks.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90437 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:47 pm to
An untimed down isn't stopping the game?
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:47 pm to
So whoever is downvoting I guess you want more stoppages in games? No fricking thanks.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:47 pm to
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Hopefully in the offseason, they'll change the rule to add time back on the clock as if there was no play.



Yup but it was damn funny to watch it
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:48 pm to
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An untimed down isn't stopping the game?


No because you are playing the game during that down.

If they have to put time back we sit for two-five minutes waiting for the ref to figure out how much time to put back on the clock instead of watching football.

I guess you like watching players sit around?
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