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re: Landry or OBJ
Posted on 4/7/14 at 11:00 am to htran90
Posted on 4/7/14 at 11:00 am to htran90
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I watched a good bit of their games, he is a freak athlete, but he has some garbage arse hands
[link=(Kelvin Benjamin || Florida State Highlights ??: https://youtu.be/LXWjWCzjEiA)]Garbage arse hands, aye?[/link]
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Posted on 4/7/14 at 11:09 am to adono
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I'd bet Payton does not select a WR in the first round; it's not going to happen. Why? Payton's ego won't let him. He is considered the preeminent offensive coach in the league...a "genius".
Umm.....no. Yes, Payton has an ego & he believes in his system but at the same time, I find it hard to believe that Payton wasn't truly frustrated with the play & production from the receivers last season.
For a coach who has preached dictating pace & tempo from his offense his entire tenure in New Orleans, it had to be almost a nightmare for him to see his offense fail to do so last season. He had to be like a kid with ADD, locked in a room for hours with no meds. It had to drive him nuts at times. He & Brees will want to get back to aggressively being able to attack defenses through the air & the only way to do that is to upgrade the receiver position.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 11:26 am to BigBrod81
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the only way to do that is to upgrade the receiver position.
I agree with this 100%. Other than Watkins and maybe Evans, there are no "can't miss" type receivers in this draft. OBJ, Benjamin, Cooks, Landry and the rest have their detractors and have their problems. I feel certain we'll pick a WR, maybe 2, but that doesn't mean it has to be in the 1st round.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 11:35 am to adono
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Other than Watkins and maybe Evans, there are no "can't miss" type receivers in this draft
It isn't always about a prospect being a "can't miss" type but it will always be about how does a prospect project in a team's system. There are several receivers out there who would project well playing in the Saints offensive system. There's always the possibility of double dipping & taking receivers with both 1st & 2nd round picks which was mentioned in another thread yesterday.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 11:41 am to BigBrod81
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There's always the possibility of double dipping & taking receivers with both 1st & 2nd round picks which was mentioned in another thread yesterday.
Anybody who truly believes this should find a betting line in Vegas on this possibility and bet everything they can beg and borrow on this...the odds have to be astronomical.
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 11:42 am
Posted on 4/7/14 at 11:51 am to adono
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Anybody who truly believes this should find a betting line in Vegas on this possibility and bet everything they can beg and borrow on this...the odds have to be astronomical.
Not really especially if you logically ponder over the receiver situation.
Colston is 31 & has a known foot problem.
Stills is a second year player & outside Colston, he appears to be the only sure thing at receiver.
Morgan is a speedy talented receiver but he is injury prone. He has missed 34 of 48 games in his career.
Toon has been a disappointment & was benched for a large portion of last season.
Tanner is undersized, inexperienced & a complete unknown in terms of regular season play at this point.
Looking at those facts & with this being a deep class at receiver, you tell me how there isn't a chance the organization doesn't double dip with their first two picks?
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:00 pm to adono
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OBJ, Benjamin, Cooks, Landry and the rest have their detractors and have their problems.
Also, hasn't Payton & his offensive staff proven to have a track record of getting players who fit the system then in return they get the most out of those on the field?
I trust the staff to get any receiver(s) drafted ready & up to par so that they are ready to contribute early & often. I could really care less about detractors opinions. I have full faith in Payton & his staff though.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:07 pm to BigBrod81
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you tell me how there isn't a chance the organization doesn't double dip with their first two picks?
I don't think there's a chance in the world the club does that. I take that back. If Watkins or Evans fall to us in the first and OBJ falls to us in the second, there's a chance it happens. I'd like to see the odds of that happening.
It's been mentioned a million times that there other areas that need depth (CB, LB, OL). Some positions need apprentice labor because there's little doubt the team will be cutting some players next season (LB position is first on that list).
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:08 pm to adono
He said it is a possibility, not likely
I'd say it is a better chance than not picking someone because of "ego"
The first 2 rounds are going to be for depth?
C is the only OL need and I doubt that is a top 2 round pick. I think we're confident with our corners, but we may pick one if the value is right
Inside LB is a need, but our contracts may tie us down there. A good inside lb would help our cap next year with Hawthorne
I'd say it is a better chance than not picking someone because of "ego"
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It's been mentioned a million times that there other areas that need depth (CB, LB, OL).
The first 2 rounds are going to be for depth?
C is the only OL need and I doubt that is a top 2 round pick. I think we're confident with our corners, but we may pick one if the value is right
Inside LB is a need, but our contracts may tie us down there. A good inside lb would help our cap next year with Hawthorne
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:15 pm to TigerBait1127
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He said it is a possibility, not likely
quote:
Lloyd Christmas: What do you think the chances are of a guy like you and a girl like me... ending up together?
Mary Swanson: Well, Lloyd, that's difficult to say. I mean, we don't really...
Lloyd Christmas: Hit me with it! Just give it to me straight! I came a long way just to see you, Mary. The least you can do is level with me. What are my chances?
Mary Swanson: Not good.
Lloyd Christmas: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?
Mary Swanson: I'd say more like one out of a million.
[pause]
Lloyd Christmas: So you're telling me there's a chance... YEAH!
DUMB & DUMBER
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:18 pm to adono
Cute
If the value is there in both rounds, we would do it.
We probably won't do it because we'd have another player rated higher
Nothing to do with ego
If the value is there in both rounds, we would do it.
We probably won't do it because we'd have another player rated higher
Nothing to do with ego
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:19 pm to TigerBait1127
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He said it is a possibility, not likely
Thank you. I never said I guaranteed it happen but dismiss the possibility altogether would be foolish. Did anybody have Carolina taking 2 DT's with their first two picks last draft? No, but taking Star Lotulelei & Kawann Short proved to be a wise investment for the Panthers.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:19 pm to TigerBait1127
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I'd say it is a better chance than not picking someone because of "ego"
Not going to happen.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:22 pm to adono
Adono, the self proclaimed board shrink
Tell me more about what Sean's ego will dictate in the draft
Tell me more about what Sean's ego will dictate in the draft
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:26 pm to TigerBait1127
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Tell me more about what Sean's ego will dictate in the draft
That's easy: Don't draft a player that has publicly declared he needs surgery, which requires serious rehab, before the draft.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 10:13 pm to adono
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I'd bet Payton does not select a WR in the first round; it's not going to happen. Why? Payton's ego won't let him. He is considered the preeminent offensive coach in the league...a "genius". A genius is suppose to know every aspect of the subject matter he commands. What's the point? Robert Meachem. Payton made a mistake in selecting Meachem; he never really lived up to the billing and should have never been selected in the 1st round (hell, the guy needed an operation and everyone knew before the draft). Payton got too cute with the pick and it backfired on him.
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