Hawks are willing to move John Collins

I think he and Zion could share the 4/5 just fine

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Wants a max,no thanks

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What he wants is not relevant, would any team offer a max is the question.

There's more you can dive into, but this is a rough look at his cleaning the glass positional stats:



Not captured above, but individually he seems to play better at power forward(his team plays better offensively with him at center), so coming here he would be playing a position he is less efficient at.

If we just say frick it and go Nets-like all offense, yeah, it can probably work to a degree. Not sure it's the direction I would want to go though.

Will it get us a chip? That I'm not so sure of. I think the Nets have the chance because they are a vet squad with 3 top ten players. Our's would be more like 2 borderline top 10 guys(at least in the coming years) and a top 25 guy with a less dynamic offensive game.

And if we are having to go through teams like the Lakers, Philly, Mil, Den, Uta, I'm not sure Collins/Zion can give enough defense, or enough overwhelming offense, to overpower the best teams in a 7 game series.

Thanks, good stuff. Looks like it would cause serious defensive issues. THat's more than fair, but we also want Lavine or Beal and we ignore defense with those 2 as well. For me, it's not that Collins is better than those 2 obviously, but he'd come cheaper than those 2 in terms of trade assets going back. But yea, it definitely doesn't sound like a good idea from a fit perspective.

Another question, I know it can work with the cap and matching salaries, but if we pretend we add Collins on a max or near max deal, knowing that wouldn't cost the bulk of our war chest of picks, we'd still have picks to make another move for a stud player.

But would we be able to afford that from a luxury tax perspective? I'm guessing no chance?

Isn’t Jerami Grant one of the most improved players so far? He could be worth this contract

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Isn’t Jerami Grant one of the most improved players so far? He could be worth this contract

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Overpaying people based on the hope of a player reaching their future potential is what got Demps fired.

Gordon, Evans, Asik, Hill. All guys we paid top of or above market rate based on the hope they would live up to their contract in the future. And when they don't you are left holding the bag on a toxic asset.