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Morrisey on Mick Ronson

Posted on 5/23/14 at 9:47 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 9:47 pm
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I loved the Smiths, absolutely didn´t care for Morrisey as a person.

His genuine admiration and respect for Ronson make me reconsider a bit.

Love the line about how Bowie would have been another obscure blip in the history of pop music , had he not had the good fortune of meeting Ronson. and this one
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Guitarists of genius don’t move with the crowd.
fricking brilliant.












This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 9:58 pm to
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I loved the Smiths, absolutely didn´t care for Morrisey as a person
I don't care for either
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Bowie would have been another obscure blip in the history of pop music , had he not had the good fortune of meeting Ronson
Bowie was too brilliant a self-promoter for this to be true
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:03 pm to
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Bowie was too brilliant a self-promoter for this to be true
He continously failed miserably, except for mild success with Starman, until meeting Mick Ronson.

Kabuki theatre training et al, can only get you so far. You need music behind it (don´t say that to Kiss, eh?).
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 10:05 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:16 pm to
First off I'm not an expert on Bowie. But IIRC his breakthrough did come when he teamed up with Ronson -- so you're giving Ronson the credit. What is that called in logic class?

There were a number of factors at work. First, he began modeling his public wardrobe on the lead singer of a little known, unsigned band called Roxy Music. Yes, it's true -- Bryan Ferry/the egg came first, not Bowie/the chicken. I was surprised to learn that myself.

Also (according to a Bowie documentary I once saw) around this time he came out of the closet amid much to-do. The documentary strongly implied this was a calculated publicity grab.

So not only was Bowie hopping on a new fashion fad, but he was also trying to exploit the androgyny gimmick the Stones had hinted at. Either of which would have gotten him press in the England of 1972-- together they were a gold mine.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:30 pm to
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Bryan Ferry

He had a grand fascination with Ferry and Roxy Music. They were the leaders.

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The documentary strongly implied this was a calculated publicity grab.

Bi or not, it was.

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Either of which would have gotten him press in the England of 1972-- together they were a gold mine.

Sure. I wasn´t around then, but I´m sure a lot of people got a lot of press, and as we all know, Bolan was huge. Beatle huge.

The Bowie-Ronson combination was a gol dmine (nice touch there), but definitely it was about the music.





This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 11:35 pm
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