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re: Zach Braff's Kickstarter Film Lands Full Financing
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:04 am to Fearthehat0307
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:04 am to Fearthehat0307
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for now but a DANGEROUS precedent has been set
White people problems
:firstworldproblems:
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:05 am to CP3LSU25
quote:dude he said it in that video on the kickstarter page he said the backers wanted a say in the movie and he didn't want their input he wanted complete control which is why he rejected their funding and took to kickstarter
link?
Then why wasn't it made the last 8 years?
This post was edited on 5/16/13 at 11:06 am
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:07 am to CP3LSU25
quote:if this is all you can bring to a legitimate discussion then please stay away from this thread. it's ok to disagree but at least bring some valid substance
White people problems
:firstworldproblems:
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:09 am to Fearthehat0307
Zach Braff has ruined hollywood and kickstarter
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:10 am to Fearthehat0307
VM and Zach braffs movie was in the same boat but WB was gonna help fund VM now that they received their money.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:12 am to Fearthehat0307
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if this is all you can bring to a legitimate discussion then please stay away from this thread. it's ok to disagree but at least bring some valid substance
That is valid. People are overreacting on something so small and trivial.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:15 am to Fearthehat0307
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this would come at the expense of those that actually need kickstarter though. if kickstarter becomes flooded with every Hollywood actor or producer who wants to minimize their risk it will become the opposite of the intention of the site. those that actually have no money or available funds to create their projects that use kickstarter legitimately will be flushed out
You're giving the doomsday scenario. The budget on this movie is 10 million. That's nothing in the movie business.
You're also assuming that all the money will go to the start ups that kinda need the money and there will be nothing left over for the truly independent start ups. I think that if a person truly wants to see a project get off the ground, they will give it money.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:16 am to CP3LSU25
quote:again where did you see that wb said they are funding the movie? if that is true I will be severely pissed at rob Thomas for keeping the donations.
VM and Zach braffs movie was in the same boat but WB was gonna help fund VM now that they received their money.
also again Zach braff had the money offered from the backers to make the movie he chose not to take it. veronica mars did not have the funds offered and would not have been able to create the movie because they DIDN'T HAVE THE AVAILABLE FUNDS ZACH BRAFF DID.
I have already said VM started the precedent which is why i'm torn about it but they at least had a legit need for the cash or it wouldn't have been made.
you are completely ignoring the reality because of your worship of braff.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:17 am to Fearthehat0307
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dude he said it in that video on the kickstarter page he said the backers wanted a say in the movie and he didn't want their input he wanted complete control which is why he rejected their funding and took to kickstarter
What's so bad about that? He wanted to make an independent movie without outside control so he created a kick starter to get that done. He just said "frick you" to the backers and said he'll get it done with the backing of his fans.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:18 am to boom roasted
quote:it may be a doomsday scenario but you don't think that executives and producers will see a chance to minimize their loss on future projects will and jump on it. it's a smart business decision.
You're giving the doomsday scenario. The budget on this movie is 10 million. That's nothing in the movie business.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:19 am to boom roasted
quote:nothing bad about it just pointing out the differences to an oblivious cp3lsu25 between the vm and braff campaigns.
What's so bad about that?
eta: well also Zach braff's net worth completely overshawdows what he was asking for on kickstarter. if he believed in his project so much why didn't he fund it himself?
This post was edited on 5/16/13 at 11:21 am
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:22 am to Fearthehat0307
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it may be a doomsday scenario but you don't think that executives and producers will see a chance to minimize their loss on future projects will and jump on it. it's a smart business decision.
It would be a good business decision to try to get some free funding from the public, but I have a hard time seeing it get done on a non-independent movie. It would be a hard sell for a movie studio to try to do this.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:24 am to boom roasted
quote:what about successful actors and actresses who have the ability to fund their own projects but decide to solicit it from fans so they can protect themselves against losses? (i.e. Zach braff)
but I have a hard time seeing it get done on a non-independent movie
This post was edited on 5/16/13 at 11:25 am
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:25 am to Fearthehat0307
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eta: well also Zach braff's net worth completely overshawdows what he was asking for on kickstarter. if he believed in his project so much why didn't he fund it himself?
Why didn't the entire cast of Veronica Mars pitch in to get that up and running again?
Answer: Because he didn't have to. He has enough of a fan base to get it done without getting a line of credit, etc.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:26 am to Fearthehat0307
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What about successful actors and actresses who have the ability to fund their own projects but decide to solicit it from fans so they can protect themselves against losses? (i.e. Zach braff)
Wouldn't you do the same? It's smart.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:26 am to boom roasted
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It would be a hard sell for a movie studio to try to do this.
A studio doesn't have to. They can tell the Zach Braffs of the world to do it that way their hands are clean and Zach still looks like a struggling film maker working on his dear little indie project.
They all get what they want while people that donate are charged twice for a movie.
This post was edited on 5/16/13 at 11:27 am
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:27 am to stout
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A studio doesn't have to. They can tell the Zach Braffs of the world to do it that way their hands are clean and Zach still looks like a struggling film maker working on his dear little indie project.
Where does the studio make money in all of this? They don't have any leverage over a completely independent film.
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They all get what they want while people that donate are charged twice for a movie.
It's pretty obvious the people investing don't give a shite about paying twice.
This post was edited on 5/16/13 at 11:29 am
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:33 am to boom roasted
Not on a 100% indie film but something like the Veronica Mars movie a studio will profit off of.
Or the thought never occurred to them. There are people that are 100% oblivious and ignorant with money. It's their right to be obviously but it won't stop my opinion that zach Braff exploited the frick out of Kickstarter.
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It's pretty obvious the people investing don't give a shite about paying twice.
Or the thought never occurred to them. There are people that are 100% oblivious and ignorant with money. It's their right to be obviously but it won't stop my opinion that zach Braff exploited the frick out of Kickstarter.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:33 am to boom roasted
quote:this is mostly speculation and you may be right but this is my interpretation. (keep in mind I have already criticized VM for starting this trend so i'm not knighting for them blindly).
Why didn't the entire cast of Veronica Mars pitch in to get that up and running again?
Answer: Because he didn't have to. He has enough of a fan base to get it done without getting a line of credit, etc.
the cast is not full of A list celebrities and I think rob Thomas the creator was the driving force behind this want to create a movie. I don't know how wealthy rob is but I don't see him being on braff's level and bell's net worth is around 8 million which is good but to up 25% of your net worth to create this movie is borderline absurd. the rest of the cast are b level actors at best. it is not clear how invested anyone outside of Thomas and Bell were to get this movie made so don't know if they were willing to up any costs. it is well known rob Thomas tried for years to get this green lighted but couldn't get the backing.
I may be completely off base and feel free to bring anything that contradicts my interpretation but that's how I see it
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:34 am to stout
quote:100% how I feel
It's their right to be obviously but it won't stop my opinion that zach Braff exploited the frick out of Kickstarter.
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