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re: The Voice---Season long thread

Posted on 12/4/12 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 6:42 pm to
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so now album sales is what we judge singing ability with?


Not solely. But what's it matter how good of a singer she is if she can't sell? That's what it's all about.

Britney Spears is actually a pretty good singer when you strip down the autotune to just her voice.
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 6:44 pm to
My favorites are Terry, Cassadee, and Amanda
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 6:45 pm to
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My favorites are Terry, Cassadee, and Amanda


No love for Nicholas?
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 6:49 pm to
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But what's it matter how good of a singer she is if she can't sell?
well being the fact that we are judging how well they did on a singing competition i'd say record sells have very little to do with my analysis. i dont sit there and say they have a great singing voice but they may not go platinum so that performance was just meh. there are better singers in any one season of any of these shows than if i turned on a top 40 station and listened for 12 hours. which is why i love these shows and haven't listened to an actual radio station for an extended period of time in years.
Posted by CP3LSU25
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 6:51 pm to
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so now album sales is what we judge singing ability with?


Just because you have a good voice doesn't mean you can be a good singer. You have to put out good music or you are useless. Which most people on American Idol have done. Most have good voices but put out terrible music I wouldn't pay for in a lifetime.

Albums sales more often now reflect how good you are. Not citing the Justin Beiber/Nickelodeon/Nicki M.There are obviously still some that don't get the attention they deserve. Mumford and Sons, Alabama Shakes, The Black Keys, Bon Iver all have great album sales and never touched foot on a radio station.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 6:56 pm to
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i dont sit there and say they have a great singing voice but they may not go platinum so that performance was just meh.


Fair point. But what I was basically commenting on is calling people once in a lifetime singers or tremendous talents like some do with these people shows. It's a fair discussion to have about the marketability of these singers.

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there are better singers in any one season of any of these shows than if i turned on a top 40 station and listened for 12 hours.


Possibly. But I don't really listen to top 40.

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which is why i love these shows and haven't listened to an actual radio station for an extended period of time in years.


I really love these shows too and the discussion we all have on here is awesome.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:00 pm to
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Just because you have a good voice doesn't mean you can be a good singer. You have to put out good music or you are useless. Which most people on American Idol have done. Most have good voices but put out terrible music I wouldn't pay for in a lifetime. Albums sales more often now reflect how good you are. Not citing the Justin Beiber/Nickelodeon/Nicki M.There are obviously still some that don't get the attention they deserve. Mumford and Sons, Alabama Shakes, The Black Keys, Bon Iver all have great album sales and never touched foot on a radio station.


Your best post in a singing competition thread
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:04 pm to
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Albums sales more often now reflect how good you are.
no i does not it reflects how wealthy and famous that person will become but it does not make them a better singer than someone that sells 10 albums and has a better voice.
This post was edited on 12/4/12 at 7:05 pm
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:06 pm to
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no i does not it reflects how wealthy and famous that person will become but it does not make them a better singer


So you are saying that record high sales are not typically an indication of vocal talent?
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:08 pm to
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So you are saying that record high sales are not typically an indication of vocal talent?
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:13 pm to
adam calling out the audience
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:14 pm to
really carson? he pushed his button for all 10 of the finalists and he also pushed it for the top 8 and top 6


eta: christina has to do something to bring attention to herself
This post was edited on 12/4/12 at 7:16 pm
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:22 pm to
America saves Terry
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:22 pm to
i really think its out of nick trevin and amanda going home
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:24 pm to
Hopefully Trevin
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:25 pm to
I want Trevin and Melanie to go home
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:29 pm to
stop making people sing songs they suck at damnit
Posted by Sammobile
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:30 pm to
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Hopefully Trevin


Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:32 pm to
America saves Trevin
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