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Posted on 8/30/12 at 7:05 am to
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 7:05 am to
Yeah it will.

I actually think it's a better plan for Joe to stick with Brit.

Shane is the favorite to win HOH next week. Frank and Dan are a much tougher two to go to the jury against. Joe would have no shot.

I'd love to see the house split 4 to 4 next week with literally every single player fighting for their lives with a real chance to go home.

Game will be boring if Brit goes unless Ian or Shane win HOH. Even then, Jenn or Joe will go home cause Frank or Dan would likely win veto.

Even if Brit stays, Dans move was still all time great. 100% going home, and he got his biggest rival to shift the target and take him off.

He survives against all odds.

Still surprised he turned on Brit instead of Shane though. He's friends with Brit outside the game, was his biggest ally, Shane huge threat to win HOH.

He should have just gotten Shane out. Still kills Brit's game, but gives her a chance to save herself with HOH at least. Much less scumbag move imo.
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 7:18 am to
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Still surprised he turned on Brit instead of Shane though. He's friends with Brit outside the game, was his biggest ally, Shane huge threat to win HOH.


Maybe he was also thinking about who he'd rather in jury. I think Brit would respect his move and vote for him over Danielle if did this to Shane, he would most likely vote for Daniell or anyone else over Dan.

Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 7:38 am to
Yeah I hear ya.

But eventually his plan is to have them both in the jury anyway.

It's one thing to turn on his alliance when he's 100% going home and has no other choice.

It's another to completely backdoor his biggest ally and friend outside the game leaving her no shot to even compete to save herself when Shane poses a bigger immediate threat for HOH anyway.

Isn't that the best time to get a Shane out anyway? When he has no chance to win a veto comp and save himself?

Regardless of who goes home, I'll be rooting for Ian and Shane to win HOH for sure just to keep things interesting.

And I'm a fan of frank and want him to win. But Ian or Shane winning hoh will make for a great week of TV.
This post was edited on 8/30/12 at 7:42 am
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:15 am to
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And I'm a fan of frank and want him to win. But Ian or Shane winning hoh will make for a great week of TV.



I'm rooting for Frank too and Dan second. After that, I don't care.

I don't hate anyone that's left. At best, I dislike Joe. When there's noone to hate it usually can get boring fast but they've done a damn good job of keeping it interesting.

Frank can't compete for HOH for 2 out of the 3 weeks left so, for us Frank fans, it's definitely going to be interesting. Dude has to win every veto here on out.
Posted by FalseProphet
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:38 am to
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It's another to completely backdoor his biggest ally and friend outside the game leaving her no shot to even compete to save herself when Shane poses a bigger immediate threat for HOH anyway.


That's not true. Brit played in not one, but two, veto competitions that week. She was trying to win both and couldn't.

You should really learn what a backdoor is.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:44 am to



Backdoor is putting someone up after the veto so they have no way to get themselves off the block. Brit was backdoored plain and simple.

And Brit was playing for veto TO SAVE DAN AND THE QP.

She was in no danger unless Dan completely sold her out. She was trying to save him and their alliance.

I still like Dan, and he had to give up the QP to save himself so I don't fault that. But he didn't have to go after Brit to do it, and probably SHOULDN'T have for his best interests. It was a scumbag move.

A really cool and unexpected one that was fun to watch, but total scumbag. And not necessarily the smartest, since Shane is a huge threat to to win HOH and blow this whole game open again.


Oh, and that's what she said
This post was edited on 8/30/12 at 8:47 am
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:49 am to
actually a backdoor is when you don't nominate someone so that they might not get a chance to play in the POV, then you replace them and send them out and they never had a chance to save themselves

and all this boo-hooing is ridiculous, why did they think Dan was just going to lay down and die and go home for the "good of the alliance"? frick that, you save yourself, period. I don't blame one bit and it wasn't near scummbaggng at all...he only told the truth to Frank

Brit is suffering because of Ian, who is the real scumbag in all of this

Brit and Shane should have had a plan in place to prevent what happened from happening...the only reason they didnt is because they actually wanted Dan to go home. They were completely willing to allow Dan to "fall on the sword" and take all the heat for both the alliance and Ian...

ETA: and all of this could have been prevented if they had listened to Ian and tried to backdoor Frank on double eviction night.

If he puts up Ash and Joe, and anyone but Frank win POV (which he might not have even been in) then Frank goes home...if he does win it then you send out Ashley (just like what actually happened) and Ian would have had a chance to work with Frank and that bridge wouldn't have been as badly burned.
This post was edited on 8/30/12 at 8:55 am
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:55 am to
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You should really learn what a backdoor is.



Oh boy... Egg on the face time.

I don't know what crawled up your arse and died this morning but what they did to Britney was a classic backdoor.

Playing for the veto beforehand or not doesn't matter. You're backdoored when, at the time you're put on the block, you have no chance to take yourself off.
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:59 am to
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FEEDS: Brit brings up that she's getting backdoored. Ian points out that she did play for veto twice this week #bb14


I always understood being backdoored when you don't get a chance to save yourself...if you actually play in the POV, but dont win it, and then get put up you still did have a chance to save yourself

and I think if anyone would know, it would be Ian

quote:

You're backdoored when, at the time you're put on the block, you have no chance to take yourself off.


but if played the POV, you did have a chance to take yourself off because if won it you wouldnt be going up
This post was edited on 8/30/12 at 9:01 am
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 9:02 am to
Agreed.

And glad I'm not the only one who felt like he was being a little aggressive.

I've already said Dan had to do something obviously. I understand that.

I just think he could have accomplished the same thing, and actually gotten a bigger immediate threat out by NOT backstabbing his only friend from outside the house.

I think it was a dick move. Still like the guy, but it was scumbag, and again, not the smartest play imo.

Really hope Shame wins HOH to prove that.
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 9:11 am to
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but if played the POV, you did have a chance to take yourself off because if won it you wouldnt be going up


I get why you're confused but you're over-complicating it.

The reason an HOH doesn't nom the person initally is because they want to do their best to eliminate that persons chance to win POV but that doesn't mean you're not backdoored if you play for it, don't win it and get put up.

Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 9:14 am to
Brit is only to make Ian feel more alone and vulnerable...she is not taking it personally, she hates Frank right now not Dan (she has stated she will never vote for Frank to win the game, she would vote for Dan to win a second time or even Joe to win over him). Dan was on the block and got himself off, you can't be mad at that.

and he is already covered on the Shane angle because Shane thinks he and Danielle are tight and to the final 2...

the house still thinks Dan and Danielle hate each other so Shane still tells everything to Danielle

If Shane wins HOH he is targeting Frank and Jenn, guaranteed. Dan and Danielle still safe

ETA: im not really angry or trying to rant or anything, I love talking out strategies because there are so many possibilities and scenarios its impossible to predict whats going to happen. I can see why some people think Dan was being a douche, but I don't see how saving yourself by telling the truth is a "dick move"

Next week will be really fun if Joe were to somehow win an HOH, the house would be a clusterfrick of greatness
This post was edited on 8/30/12 at 9:17 am
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 9:22 am to
Hmm.

That's interesting that Shane actually doesn't know Dan and Danielle are actually still working together. Good point.

But Shane is going to be pissed at Dan then too bc of the way Dan blew up at Danielle if he thinks it's legit.

Besides, Shane can't be dumb enough to not realize Dan and Frank are his two biggest threats right?

Shane should try to make a rookie alliance with Ian Danielle Joe and Jenn if Brit goes.

Get all the coaches out, Dan, and the strongest rookie, Frank. Gives them all a better shot at jury
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 9:30 am to
they are all too loyal for their own good. Shane will not go against the Quack Pack, and Danielle will do her best to try and keep Dan safe if Shane were to win the HOH. Jenn wont go against Frank

Danielle is in a great position right now, Dan trusts her, Shane trusts her, and Jenn really likes her and they have a good relationship.

If Dan is serious about winning this game he has to be sitting next to Joe or Frank and the end so he will have to turn on her at some point (he would lose her for good at that point since she is so super sensitive)

But I think Dan just wants to make final 2 and wont mind if he loses to Danielle. He will feel success as a player and a coach in that case

ETA: also looks like tonights HOH will be an endurance so it looks good for Ian, Dan and Danielle to win (Joe and Jenn have no shot, Shane and Frank will have a tough time since they are so big depending on what it is).

Ian winning would be great TV, the power would get to his head so fast it would get ugly with him and Frank
This post was edited on 8/30/12 at 9:35 am
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 9:34 am to
Agreed on Danielle being in great shape.

Frank even seems to like her as well, despite the fact he put her up. I think that was just as a pawn to make sure Dan went home.
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 9:45 am to
while Danielle may be emotional, she is still a cold-hearted bitch

on the After Darks this week Britney is pouring her heart out talking about Dan and how he could do that and Danielle crys with her and talks about how she can't believe Dan would be so mean to her (and Brit) and how he would turn against the Quack Pack

she has no problem straight up lying to anyones face and then reporting straight back to Dan...they are a deadly combo
This post was edited on 8/30/12 at 9:46 am
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:38 pm to
Britney knows she is going home with that speech
Posted by Puck82
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:38 pm to
The brigade was on and called Danielle the stalker. Amy Fischer. they were cracking on Shane and his pink shirts too.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:40 pm to
Dan is lapping the field this season
He may be the greatest player of all time
Posted by Puck82
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:43 pm to
Don't see Dan lasting too much longer now. Heis the only coach left in the game.
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