re: Does Clint Eastwood belong in a list of the top 10 actors of the last 50 years?

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And I was countering the "Top 10" argument by naming guys with decent body of work with acting chops over and above Clint's demonstrated level.

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Ah ok, you did say in Clint's league though, of which they are beyond, that's all I meant.

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Case in point. I think Shia lebouf is a pretty good actor

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You see, when you say something that is specifically intended to enrage another person, but that person is completely on to you - that person is completely unaffected by this action.

Just food for thought there, Fox.

Clint has always been a great character to me rather than a great actor..after his start in the Spaghetti's he mostly morphed his entire career into crusty griseled veteran of job/life with an old world chip on his shoulder who doesn't like change.

All the Dirty Harry's
Outlaw Josey Wales
Heartbreak Ridge
Honkey Tonk Man
The Rookie
Unforgiven
True Crime
Pale Rider
In the Line of Fire
Absolute Power
Blood Work
Space Cowboys
Million Dollar Baby
Trouble with the Curve
Gran Torino

Hell even Pink Cadillac fits his character/persona mold.

I want to see him do more comedy, along came Polly was stupid but his character was outrageously funny.

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Clint has always been a great character

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But, f*ck man, that was true of most, if not all, of the Hollywood leading greats. Bogey (except for Sierra Madre and Caine Mutiny), Spencer Tracy, the Duke, Gary Cooper, etc.

Brando was the first true "method" actor, but even Brando, to a degree played altered versions of himself in most things, particularly during the later period. After him, you almost have to get to Hoffman/Deniro/Pacino to find guys who stretched out from role to role - and even then, in leads, they're the same.

The fact that Clint plays the same character (Clint Eastwood, in fact) in nearly everything over the past 40 years, whether as a lead role or in support, is that he has, almost exclusively, directed himself over that time. That doesn't make Harry Callahan, or Josey Wales less interesting of a character, just because it is Clint Eastwood being Clint Eastwood.

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It's as if you people never heard of Robert fricking Duvall.

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Good point, but not really a lead actor. GREAT character actor, and I would argue as a support better than either Hoffman or Deniro under most circumstances, and as good as Pacino.

(Yeah, I know about THX and Santini and he was awesome in those.)

Got to mention The Apostle as well

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I do think SL has talent but that's a topic for another thread

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I think he has some time, needs to develop charisma past 13 year old girls.

I'd admit that actually.