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Why does no one run the Paul Westhead system anymore

Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:27 pm
Posted by Mr Personality
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:27 pm
1990 team averaged 122 points a game. LMU has been dogshit for 25 years. I get big programs wouldn't run it but some mid majors should.


Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:29 pm to
Stumer and Fryer, along with Bo and Hank.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:29 pm to
Because it can’t sustain over a full year without the Center

While it can win in a Mid Major it can’t last over the long haul especially with the new clock rules the game already has sped up so its being run in a bastardized version
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 9:32 pm
Posted by Mr Personality
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:31 pm to
If it can win at a mid major level that should be good enough for a lot of schools. LMU games now have like 300 people in attendance.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:33 pm to
Remember what made that system though, it was Gathers. They had to get rebounds and go.

Go look at all the high tempo teams they all have 1 thing in common a great Center.

Coog High Olajuwon
UNLV Butler Ackles
Arkansas Credit
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 9:36 pm
Posted by Mr Personality
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:35 pm to
LMU literally has a coach who has been the HC in the NBA and they still suck.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:35 pm to
I watched a documentary about Westhead, his practices were freaking brutal.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:37 pm to
If I was LMU I’d go get 5 guards and just run a Russian offense or go get a Larry Brown disciple

You can’t press teams to death anymore as the clock shortening has killed that advantage.

This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 9:39 pm
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:38 pm to
They had to be. Nolan at Arkansas was brutal until he figured out he needed to stop pressing 40 minutes
Posted by JoeHackett
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:40 pm to
They beat Michigan 149-115 in the tournament and that was without Hank.

Paul had one of those crazy careers. Won an NBA Championship, coached the Panasonic Super Kangaroos, coached in the WNBA.
Posted by Mr Personality
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:41 pm to
I don't disagree necessarily. I'm just saying if your program (LMU) has been awful ever since, maybe you should try something different.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:42 pm to
And got blitzed by OU without Hank during Christmas

Michigan was so fickle in 90. They had a team that could’ve killed you but Fischer got conned into a running game. Rummeal Robinson knew better but lost his cool.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:44 pm to
Loyola to me needs to decide what they want.

They had a CWS team then faded because didn’t support it, then got scared by Gathers. It’s Tulane of LA. If they decide they want to do it they can.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 9:45 pm
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:45 pm to
The one place that confuses me is San Diego St

They commit to big time then go in an audit everything to destroy their infrastructure

Another issue with LMU is Fullerton Long Beach Northrodge etc

They’re all after the scraps left by S.C. UCLA Arizona KU etc
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 9:50 pm
Posted by JoeHackett
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

They had a team that could’ve killed you but Fischer got conned into a running game.


LINK

Looks like everyone got conned into running with them, except for Alabama. That must have been so much fun to watch.

They gave up 137 to US International, 136 to Oklahoma, 148 to LSU.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:54 pm to
OU ran anyway. OU of that era was the monster that scared you. Tubbs was a Rockstar

But of the big time teams they played Michigan was the only one that let LMU take them out of what they did.

The Big 8 one year was so loaded all 8 teams should have went to tourney but they just couldn’t. OU in a weekend beat #1 KU then on Monday of that weekend beat #1 MU to become 1

I think it’s the only time ever that a team has beat the #1 team in back to back games.

This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 9:59 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

I watched a documentary about Westhead, his practices were freaking brutal.


They weren't practices.

They were trained like a Cross-Country team.

They ran the Dunes at the L.A. beaches until they puked.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 10:02 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:04 pm to
And the underrated guy on that LMU team was Jeff Fryer, dude could bomb away.

That offense needed that...long Curry bombs real quick...it wasn't just all alley-oops to Gathers.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by Mr Personality
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:07 pm to
Erik Spoelstra was on the court for Portland when Hank collapsed
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