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re: What stat supports the conclusion mj is not the goat?

Posted on 5/6/18 at 8:11 pm to
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 5/6/18 at 8:11 pm to
That's a very fair take.
Posted by Hamma1122
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:24 pm to
So making the finals is good enough for you lol
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:43 pm to
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So making the finals is good enough for you lol


Better than not making the finals lol
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:48 pm to



Is this up to date?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:51 pm to
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MJ never averaged 18 ppg in the finals and his team lost despite having home court advantage.
Massive black eye for my man. It really is. Jesus, Lebron

Thank goodness his prime has lasted so long that he's made up for that shite series, and WAY more.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:53 pm to
My real answer..

MJ couldn't sustain his peak(or close to it) play for as long as Lebron will.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:57 pm to
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My real answer..

MJ couldn't sustain his peak(or close to it) play for as long as Lebron will.


Jordan got burned out too easy, I kinda personally wished he stayed retired after the 2nd Chicago stint, I don't want those Wizards years to exist but what can you do? LOL I'm not a big lagniappe year person when you're clearly past your prime go out at your peak, just my preference.
Posted by dirtbag lsu
Not in Texas anymore ...dammit
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:01 pm to
Can we stop all this BS of who is better???

Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the Greatest of all time AND had the most unstoppable shot in the history of basketball.

I might even say Bird and Magic were better than Lebron and MJ.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:04 pm to
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Jordan got burned out too easy
I could see that with his personality.

Kinda a suffocating and incredibly strong presence. Intense to the point that he was probably stressful to be around.

It has to be hard to keep that up in the sports world.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:05 pm to
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Can we stop all this BS of who is better???

Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the Greatest of all time AND had the most unstoppable shot in the history of basketball.

I might even say Bird and Magic were better than Lebron and MJ.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:06 pm to
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Jordan got burned out too easy


He is the most non-burned out person probably to ever live.

He played 20 years.

He was burning the candle at both ends - while trying to beat the kings at the time - Larry's Birds Celtics...and then the new kings - the Bad Boys who designed an entire defense around stopping him...

And then if he could escape the East, he had Magic waiting for his tired arse.

The dude would stay up until 6am in Monte Carlo...then go out and be the best player on the Dream Team by far.

Jordan had a motor than all-night gambling couldn't stop. He was going to rip your heart out even if he was terribly hung-over. (Flu game.)
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 6:09 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:08 pm to
Jordan never did anything as selfish as leaving his original team for Miami

Oh wait he quit the entire sport for two years to play fricking minor league baseball
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:10 pm to
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He is the most non-burned out person probably to ever live.


He retired 3x, LeBron over the course of 15 seasons has retired ZERO TIMES. One indicates burnout, another durability, longevity, and sustainability. Just facts bro.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21178 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:11 pm to
Keep racking up finals losses. Soon to be 6. You into participation trophies
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:14 pm to
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Keep racking up finals losses. Soon to be 6. You into participation trophies


Apparently Michael was when he got eliminated in the East playoffs 7x and didn't even make the playoffs those 2 seasons with the Wizards, at least I can count on LeBron leading a team to the Finals series every season and giving a franchise a chance for championships. Sincerely hope you aren't ignoring the quality of those West teams Bron lost to were except for the Mavs series that was just a choke job on his part and I acknowledge that.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:17 pm to
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Jordan never did anything as selfish as leaving his original team for Miami

Oh wait he quit the entire sport for two years to play fricking minor league baseball


Not only that he held the franchise hostage the entire summer and retired a month before the 1994 season started, not providing them enough time to sign a good free agent and basically relegating them to signing PETE frickING MYERS off the CBA as replacement. Kind of a dick move on his part oh well.
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 6:19 pm
Posted by dirtbag lsu
Not in Texas anymore ...dammit
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:26 pm to
I didnt like Jordon either.............but he is way better than Lebron.

BUT.........Jordon was the first to have his butt kissed by the NBA and the rules became non existent for him. Walks/ push offs/ carrying the ball/reaching in all the time.............he got away with everything.

Now.......Lebron gets away with everything..........TIMES 10.

The NBA has become garbage.........and those 2 guys are a huge reason why.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:41 pm to
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I didnt like Jordon either.............but he is way better than Lebron.


Respectfully disagree, I don't think there's anything that Jordan's better than LeBron at except free-throw shooting but are we really gonna place a lot of weight on that? LOL
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21178 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 9:00 pm to
MJ never choked mic drop
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 9:17 pm to
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MJ never choked mic drop


1995 Eastern Conference Semis against Orlando, commits 2 costly turnovers to cost them game 1 and, in game 6 at home, they blow an 8-point lead with 2 minutes remaining to lose the series. Also, at least LeBron's choke came in a Finals he advanced to, Jordan was eliminated early so much basically offsets it. Also, LeBron's brilliant longevity more than compensates for that choke as well, all the playoff records baw.
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