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re: The Championships, Wimbledon 2013 Official Thread
Posted on 6/27/13 at 6:58 pm to austingator
Posted on 6/27/13 at 6:58 pm to austingator
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Made me laugh reading about Noah donning a dress against Justine Henin.
I didn't think Yannick stayed real connected to the game. He has his music thing going for him; I didn't know he even still played any tennis, so good to see he's still somewhat involved with the game. He was a very likeable player.
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 6:58 pm to bobbyray21
I wanna see Johnny Mac v. Serena.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 7:02 pm to Bunk Moreland
Murray's blog is actually interesting.
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There was certainly plenty going on elsewhere with all sorts of injuries and retirements, and this has just been one of those tournaments so far. Because of that, I was a bit tentative at the start of my match, but I didn't have any problems with the court and soon felt fine.
I don't know the ins and outs of everyone's injuries, but I do think players are quicker these days and grass is a tough surface to stop on. The way the guys throw their bodies around the court now, they seem to slip down more than they used to.
You can't move like that on a grass court; you need to be very particular with your foot placement and that's the thing that takes time to get used to coming from the clay. There you can be throwing your right leg into sliding for a ball; here you have to take small steps to slow yourself down or you'll fall.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 7:02 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I wanna see Johnny Mac v. Serena.
Now that I would pay to see.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 7:17 pm to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 6/27/13 at 7:38 pm to bobbyray21
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:11 pm to bobbyray21
Tsongas always does things that leave you scratching your head.
Agassi played beautifully. Samprass - ugly arse forehand, beautiful serve.
Interesting what Murray says about playing in grass. It is stunning to me how today's players love sliding- even in hard courts (the joker loves to do this). Ugh, I've seen juniors trying to imitate- injuries waiting to happen.
Agassi played beautifully. Samprass - ugly arse forehand, beautiful serve.
Interesting what Murray says about playing in grass. It is stunning to me how today's players love sliding- even in hard courts (the joker loves to do this). Ugh, I've seen juniors trying to imitate- injuries waiting to happen.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:27 pm to austingator
Surface Tension How big a role has court technology played in tennis's current golden age?
I'm too impatient right now to read all of that, but I wish he touched on string technology.
I'm too impatient right now to read all of that, but I wish he touched on string technology.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:32 pm to austingator
so many fricking retirements
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:42 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Nadal would have been slaughtered like a wedgie-afflicted calf at any Wimbledon of the high Sampras era.4 Which doesn't mean I was wrong to say that Rafa's got greatest-of-all-time potential; after all, Pete Sampras might not have won seven Wimbledons in Nadal's slow-grass era. But isn't it a wrinkle that at least belongs in the conversation?
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:47 pm to TulaneTigerFan
I have a similar rant deep within about Rafa and poly strings, but I don't want to incur bobby's wrath. This part:
had me
. That is like half the posters over on Tennis Warehouse forums.
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My friend Toby, who's the most obsessive tennis fan I know (and who cultivates a luxuriant bitterness toward Nadal, if that's relevant), started sending me videos of fast-court tennis from the '90s and asking if I thought Rafa could win majors under similar conditions.
had me
. That is like half the posters over on Tennis Warehouse forums.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:06 pm to bobbyray21
wanna see Johnny Mac v. Serena
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Mac 6-4, 6-4, maybe a 3 in there. Serena wouldn't have a clue on those sidespin serves, stab volleys. She's never seen a true vollyer, and he's the best ever. He could handle her power, he still plays enough to see strong strokes from middle tier players.
i miss the days of vollyers, i'd even love to have Edberg back
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Mac 6-4, 6-4, maybe a 3 in there. Serena wouldn't have a clue on those sidespin serves, stab volleys. She's never seen a true vollyer, and he's the best ever. He could handle her power, he still plays enough to see strong strokes from middle tier players.
i miss the days of vollyers, i'd even love to have Edberg back
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:00 pm to bobbyray21
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You might be thinking of Agassi and Blake. They had a great great match in '04 or '05.
Yea that's it. I wonder what the difference in distance covered in that match would be between the two? I'd bet Blake covered 3-4 times as much as Agassi, he was like a damn jackrabbit.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:11 pm to bobbyray21
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You might be thinking of Agassi and Blake. They had a great great match in '04 or '05.
It was 05 US Open. I'll probably never forget because I watched while dealing with Katrina BS, and it was a fantastic match
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:52 pm to austingator
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Interesting what Murray says about playing in grass. It is stunning to me how today's players love sliding- even in hard courts (the joker loves to do this). Ugh, I've seen juniors trying to imitate- injuries waiting to happen.
I slide on hard courts. It's the most efficient way of starting and stopping on a hard court, and by a comfortable margin. I actually don't worry about getting injured sliding on a hard court. It feels natural to me.
Djoker has taken sliding on a hard court to a different level, and it's why he is the best mover on a hard court. Basically he borrows the concept from clay court tennis of sliding into your shot, and he does it on a hard court. So as where I, and everybody except Djokovic, slide on a hard court, the hypothetical sequence is: (1) run like hell towards shot, (2) hit on a dead sprint, (3) slide out on your would-be next stride, (4) get back in position.
Djoker combines steps two and three so that he starts his slide before he hits the ball, slides into the shot -- which, with his flexibility, saves him a lot of real estate -- and then move back into the court.
The result of this is that he doesn't get pulled out as wide in baseline rallies. Sure, he's saving only one stride per stroke, but that's huge in professional tennis. When i watch him play, he always seems to be in perfect court position, and it's his great flexibility combined with his sliding into shots rather than right after them, that allow him to pull that off.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:57 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I have a similar rant deep within about Rafa and poly strings, but I don't want to incur bobby's wrath. This part:
Why would any rant about poly strings be directed only to Rafa. Good luck finding a pro that doesn't string with poly.
And actually they say that Rafa is one of the least fussy players on tour about his equipment. For example, Federer has his racquets custom designed to the tee. It is weighted just for him. The grip is designed to find his hand perfectly, etc. etc. And if you handed Federer a racquet, say, during a practice hitting session that was strung 1 lb off from what he is used to, he would immediately tell the difference.
They say with Rafa you can just hand him whatever racquet and he just goes with it. On the female side, the same is true with Serena. She doesn't give s shite about equipment. Just hand her a racquet and tell her to play.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:02 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Surface Tension How big a role has court technology played in tennis's current golden age?
I'm too impatient right now to read all of that, but I wish he touched on string technology.
It's a self-perpetuating myth.
The mirage of surface speed convergence
If surface speeds are converging...
I like Brian Phillips a lot as a writer. But Jeff Sackman came to the table equipped with data.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:06 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I have a similar rant deep within about Rafa and poly strings, but I don't want to incur bobby's wrath. This part:
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My friend Toby, who's the most obsessive tennis fan I know (and who cultivates a luxuriant bitterness toward Nadal, if that's relevant), started sending me videos of fast-court tennis from the '90s and asking if I thought Rafa could win majors under similar conditions.
had me . That is like half the posters over on Tennis Warehouse forum
I also have a friend that deeply hates Nadal. I mean, I don't like Fed, but I don't like Fed because I think he's a smug a-hole that's somehow acquired a pass for smug a-hole-ness.
My friend, on the other hand, hates Nadal on much deeper and more complicated levels. I may not even fully comprehend the origins or full extent of his enmity towards Rafa.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:23 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Surface Tension How big a role has court technology played in tennis's current golden age?
I'm too impatient right now to read all of that, but I wish he touched on string technology.
I'll help you out. Look at this article that discusses a racquet strining experiment done back in the 1970's called "Spaghetti Strings".
Spaghetti Strung Racquets
Now you're gonna look at that spaghetti strung racquet and think it's the silliest thing you've ever seen. Now way somebody could play with that.
But what poly strings do is they implement the physics of the spaghetti strung racquet, but in a less exagerrated way.
The idea is that poly strings let the strings slide past each and then slide back into place. So the strings act as a bit of a catapult and the ball is able to launched off them with more spin.
Do the physica behind poly strings help Rafa more because of his whiplike forehand? Well maybe, except that Federer hits with more spin than Nadal..
Facts. Data. Debunking. Myths. Who. Want. What?
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:25 pm to bobbyray21
Y'all tell your Nadal-hating myth-perpetuating friends to give ole BR21 a holler.
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