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re: Rampage Jackson

Posted on 8/8/08 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by Cody101786
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Posted on 8/8/08 at 3:58 pm to
I know thats why it doesn't make sense, he had to be out of his mind.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81643 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

"My Brother was on a recent episode of the Tapout show... and the whole thing came off terribly.

Training Hard on Tuesday when the fight is Friday? Terrible idea. The Tapout crew showed up on Monday when the fight was on Friday. What kind of training footage did they really expect to get? They wanted shark baits with fresh guys 4 days before the fight? Are they nuts? I love how they act like the authority on training and fighting when they would even suggest this. We do shark baits like this... when its not 4 days before the fight. Had they come the week before, you would have seen plenty of that. You would have seen one fresh guy after another rotating on Dan to work on his cardio and conditioning.

Going to Sityodtong was never something we wanted to do. Dan didnt want to go, but they pushed the issue and Dan finally caved to make them happy. They were not doing anything different than what we do... but we arent training like that the week of the fight. Mask offers his words of wisdom with "I like how he changes levels" like we have never seen someone shoot a double before. I am not sure who Mask thought he was talking to, but you dont get into the UFC when you have never seen a wrestler. Dan didnt really want to be there because I was fighting Kenny a few months later, and I am sure they felt the same way. There has been a lot of tension between the camps for some time and its definitely healthy competition more so than actually dislike... but its weird for everyone involved when that happens.

They did a horrible job of cutting up audio and chopping it into their own little story. They take bits of pieces of what everyone says, twist it out of context and then splice in clips of Dan saying "yea... yup... okay" to make it all seem the way they want to portray it.

Dan was training with Guido, the 15 year, old a few days before the fight. Now does Guido really offer any bit of a challenge? Absolutely not. However, Dan was there to sweat out and lose weight and just move around. It didnt matter who he was working out with and Guido loves the beatings so Dan was rolling around with him. But obviously, they make it seem like Guido is Dans primary training partner.

The whole "I am so sad my corners are going to be late" angle was pretty hypocritical as well. Dans corners were not going to be there right when the show started, but they were there in plenty of time to get him prepared for his fight. This was Dans 11th fight and he had the other guys from the gym there with him. He wasnt sitting alone in a corner somewhere, but thank god he didnt sit down for a moment without other people in the show or I am sure Tapout would have shown Dan sitting all alone as they played some sad and depressing music.

They made the gyms, the trainers and the training partners all look like garbage. I started at this gym and have done well training out of there... and Dan has too along with a bunch of other guys. We are doing pretty good for a small gym and didnt need to be shite on like that.

Was it good TV? Maybe for some. Was it a load of bullshite? Absolutely."


i dont have versus anymore, can i catch the shows on the internet anywhere?
Posted by Cash
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:00 pm to
Rolling with a 130lbs, 15 year old kid is great training.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81643 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:01 pm to
with a name like guido i'd really like to see him
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4692 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:04 pm to
all i can say is wow. definitely has some cred to it. they were def working angles like he says. the whole bit about that being a rival gym, ouch. those tapout dudes are dickheads if joe is being truthful.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30099 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:13 pm to
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those tapout dudes are dickheads if joe is being truthful.


These guys



No Way.....
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81643 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4692 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:17 pm to
how can you try and be tough and ghey at the same time.

eta: nevermind, just remebered the gay gangsters in atl beat em to it.
This post was edited on 8/8/08 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Cash
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Member since Feb 2005
37628 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:24 pm to
If Joe thinks that gym is so great why did he leave it?

That said the Tapout guys are a joke.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81643 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:26 pm to
i'm sure the gym is a joke or whatever like you say but they do talk down about the fighters and camps a lot as if they have any fricking room to talk about shite like that. always wondering if the dude has his head right or if he is tough cause he didn't grow up on the streets. matt hughes beating punkass's arse was funny.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69980 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:31 pm to
whenever you also fast for three days and drink just energy drinks.

you are going to do crazy things.

ibarra has definitely helped his standup boxing wise. he sure as hell could hve other coaches.
Posted by Cash
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Member since Feb 2005
37628 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:32 pm to
I wouldn't really call it a camp. And I'm the first to admit the Tapout guys are jackass, but they are right. If Dan want's to be get back and stay in the UFC he needs a real camp/trainer.

Now I will say this. I wouldn't have brought him there with Dan having an upcoming fight with Florian. I'm sure neither Ken or Dan felt comfortable.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37628 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:33 pm to
Juanito was an idiot for saying if Forrest beat Rampage he would retire. A fighter doesn't need that kind of distraction.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69980 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:36 pm to
true.

and are you referring to dan lauzon?

im not too familiar with tapout show, other than i think those guys look like complete idiots although glover texeiria is a machine.
Posted by Cash
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Member since Feb 2005
37628 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:37 pm to
yes
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4692 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:37 pm to
if dan fights anyone real and throws while ducking his head like that, it'll be a quick lights out.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37628 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:42 pm to
Like what Spencer Fisher did to him.
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4692 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 4:46 pm to
for some reason i blank on that fight. i like watching fisher fight so I'm sure i saw it, just don't remeber it.
Posted by trstiger
Member since Feb 2007
2860 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

As for as wrestling, bjj, MT, cardio, etc. he has little to offer.


That's why you have a grappling, BJJ coach as well. There has got to be more to this story than is being led on. Jackson knocks out Liddell then out works Henderson. I think Ibarra played a huge role in both of those wins.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81643 posts
Posted on 8/8/08 at 5:26 pm to
lauzon was like 19 fighting in the ufc, he had no business being there. he was a late replacement i think.


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