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NFL needs to get rid of kickers not change the PAT or goalposts

Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:27 pm
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:27 pm
To make the PAT and field goal less of a sure thing I would eliminate the kicker and punters by instituting this rule.

The player who attempts a PAT or field goal or who punts must be a player who was on the field for the kicking team on the previous play.

So when they score a touchdown you are not allowed to have a person kick who was not on the field for the TD.

For field goals and punts the person who attempts the field goal or punt must be a person who was on the field the previous play. Now if they there is a turn over and the recovering team wants to attempt a field goal or even punt the ball the kicker must be someone who was on the defensive team when the all was recovered or intercepted.

The only time the rule will not apply is for the kickoff that starts the first half and second half. During the game after a team scores a field goal or TD the kicking team must use someone who was on the field for the field goal or touchdown. For Safeties the rule applies as well.

I would also widen the goal posts and have kickoffs from the 35 like they used to.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 9:50 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:29 pm to
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:38 pm to
Wtf? No to all of your suggestions.
Posted by Mikes My Tiger
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:40 pm to
Holy shite, are you serious, how about pulling a fan out of the stands to kick the pat?
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:41 pm to
You like seeing games decided often by guys who only kicks the ball? It's a waste of a roster spot. Kickers have evolved into guys who don't play the game--tackling, blocking, and being on the field. Football should be decided by the 11 guys on the field not some guy who trots in and never gets his uniform dirty.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:42 pm to
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The player who attempts a PAT or field goal or who punts must be a player who was on the field for the kicking team on the previous play.



So lets take strategy out of football
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:43 pm to
Thanks for the input on how the game should be played.

:thumbs up:
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:43 pm to
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Holy shite, are you serious, how about pulling a fan out of the stands to kick the pat?


Yes I am serious. The PAT would still be a high percentage play but not that high. I say about 70 percent of PATs would still be made. Find a player on the offense who can kick. They would have to devote more practice time to something extra but that can be rewarded at contract time.

Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:44 pm to
This would crush teams that build around a strong defense

It would make the QB position even more valuable
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 9:45 pm
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

So lets take strategy out of football


It would change strategy not eliminate it. Teams would go for touchdowns more and go for it on fourth down more when they are on the other side of the 50.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:45 pm to
call me crazy, but I kind of like your idea

quote:

have kickoffs from the 35 like they used to.



kickoffs are already done from the 35yd line
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

This would crush teams that build around a strong defense

It would make the QB position even more valuable


It would help teams with a strong defense if take away the longer field goals and make teams go for it on fourth down more.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

It would change strategy not eliminate it. Teams would go for touchdowns more and go for it on fourth down more when they are on the other side of the 50.



so you want less defense in football?

It undoubtedly takes strategy out of the game. You've already stated why. It takes the decision away from the coaches by making special teams close to irrelevant
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:46 pm to
You're crazy.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:47 pm to
let me clarify that I like his PAT suggestion, not the punting
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

so you want less defense in football?

It undoubtedly takes strategy out of the game. You've already stated why. It takes the decision away from the coaches by making special teams close to irrelevant


It would change strategy. Not take it out. Teams would go for it more and players would take extra coaching in punting and field goals. Each team will have 2-3 guys who can kick though not as well as guys who only kick.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

kickoffs are already done from the 35yd line


Okay 40 yard line.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

It would change strategy. Not take it out. Teams would go for it more and players would take extra coaching in punting and field goals. Each team will have 2-3 guys who can kick though not as well as guys who only kick.



No, it takes strategy out.

A good offensive team would go for it every time instead of deciding between 3 possible options.

Defensive teams would get hurt by this a lot more than offensive teams.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:50 pm to
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Okay 40 yard line.



So basically just encourage an onside kick every single time?
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