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re: New video of Giants thug approaching Odell about to do a Tonya Harding. Update: Brad Wing
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:28 am to lsuhunt555
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:28 am to lsuhunt555
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Norman acted the EXACT same way with exception to the ear hole shot.
Mostly true, but while watching the game it felt like Norman was in control and Beckham had completely lost it. Norman acting the way he did is pretty par for the course for him this year. Beckham has had issues in the past, but Sunday was a significant deviation from the norm considering how persistent Beckham was with his "chippiness."
It never appeared that Beckham was in control of his emotions, and at times wasn't even running routes. It culminated in the ear hole shot.
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:29 am to slackster
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Beckham has had issues in the past,
OK.
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Norman acting the way he did is pretty par for the course for him this year.
So that makes it acceptable then.
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 8:30 am
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:30 am to slackster
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Beckham has his left hand under Norman's chinstrap doing God knows what and then takes it away right as the whistle is blown.
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specifically targets Norman's head with a helmet to helmet hit later in the game.
He tried to blindside him. Dirty and deserving of suspension, but it's not like he took out his knees, something the Panthers said they would do to end OBJ's career.
How no one can see issues with Norman is beyond me. The dude plays dirty and tries to break rules so that opposing players will more obviously break rules in retaliation. Then after the game he's so big of a bitch that he tries to say he took the mask off of OBJ. GTFO. Don't play like a little bitch if you don't want to face the consequences. He just had his panties in a wad that Beckham made him look stupid on that TD. And then he wanted a flag to save him
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:30 am to EastNastySwag
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EastNastySwag
You seem like a pretty refined guy with a name like that, do you post anything other than that. Thats the second time i've seen it posted.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:31 am to More beer please
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But how can people overlook the way Norman acted, the bat nonsense, and the way him and Finnegan were quoted and what they said?
Because it is expected of Norman and Finnegan, not of Beckham.
Beckham has a large than life image and when you act the way he did on Sunday, you're going to get the brunt of the criticism. Fair or not, that's the way it is. The guy with all of the promotional deals and hype is going to fall the hardest when he fricks up.
Sunday was one of those days when one "oh shite" takes away 10 "atta boys" as my grandfather would say.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:33 am to slackster
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and at times wasn't even running routes
You talking about the play where Norman took two hands to the throat/face of Beckham immediately on the snap and got flagged for it? You know, costing his team as the Giants went in and scored a td on that drive? That's the only time I recall Beckham not running a route and Aikman sounded like an arse describing that play and never even mentioned the yellow hanky thrown on Norman. Buck had to point it out.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:34 am to slackster
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Because it is expected of Norman and Finnegan, not of Beckham.
What kind of bullshite cop out is this?
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:35 am to slackster
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Because it is expected of Norman and Finnegan, not of Beckham.
That's a NFL problem, and the attorneys will have a field day with this in the appeal process.
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Beckham has a large than life image and when you act the way he did on Sunday, you're going to get the brunt of the criticism. Fair or not, that's the way it is. The guy with all of the promotional deals and hype is going to fall the hardest when he fricks up.
Sunday was one of those days when one "oh shite" takes away 10 "atta boys" as my grandfather would say.
I agree 100%.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:35 am to slackster
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but while watching the game it felt like Norman was in control and Beckham had completely lost it
And this is what irritates me about things like this. Seattle's secondary acts in similar fashion to Norman and they get credited with "being on their game". When a WR or any other offensive player acts like that they are out of control.
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It never appeared that Beckham was in control of his emotions, and at times wasn't even running routes
Again, Norman often times was doing nothing that resembled trying to cover him. He was simply body slamming him and throwing punches at him, but again the narrative is "he was really on his game".
Not in any way, shape or form defending Beckham. I just think Norman is a piece of garbage that gets praise for being one.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:35 am to themunch
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So that makes it acceptable then.
I explained myself pretty well. If you can't see the difference I don't know what to tell you. I'm not saying it is fair to Beckham, but it is certainly understandable.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:37 am to slackster
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Because it is expected of Norman and Finnegan
Is that supposed to make it ok?
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Beckham has a large than life image and when you act the way he did on Sunday, you're going to get the brunt of the criticism. Fair or not, that's the way it is. The guy with all of the promotional deals and hype is going to fall the hardest when he fricks up.
Again, I dont disagree with this at all. However this does not mean the league should ignore the panthers situation. Especially when they are making those comments to the media.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:38 am to lsuhunt555
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And this is what irritates me about things like this. Seattle's secondary acts in similar fashion to Norman and they get credited with "being on their game". When a WR or any other offensive player acts like that they are out of control.
Obviously it is a double standard, but it makes sense too. If the offensive player is worried about throwing punches and acting like an idiot on the field, he certainly isn't worried about advancing the ball and helping his team win. The defense does those kind of things because they work and they're effective at throwing a guy off of his game. The defense is the side that should be worried about tackling, not the offense. As soon as the offensive guy concerns himself with tackling a defender, the defender has effectively won.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:40 am to Smoke7024
quote:I'm not saying anything about Beckham standing his ground.
How did he stand his ground or not stand his ground against the guy with the bat?
The standing ground comment is about ed osteen saying that people who said the panther player threatened Beckham are SJWs. So I would like to know more of what ed thinks? Does he think threatening someone is just banter and proponents of stand your ground are pussies?
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:41 am to slackster
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Obviously it is a double standard, but it makes sense too.
I hope you aren't expecting anyone to take you seriously.Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:43 am to More beer please
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Is that supposed to make it ok?
No, of course not, but surely you understand why it is falling out the way it is? Beckham is an all-pro WR who plays in New York and is unquestionably the best player on his team. He has promotion deals all over the place. He has the farthest to fall and this type of behavior is unexpected from him - even if he has a history of it.
People know what they're getting from an irritating CB like Norman or Finnegan. This type of behavior is out of left field for Beckham with respect to the average fan.
Norman likened Beckham to Harvy Dent yesterday morning, and he's right. If your image is built on being the good guy and you're larger than life, you can't have moments like Sunday that can be labeled as your true colors when the going gets tough.
Also, people are going to treat Norman and the Panthers differently because for 55 minutes they completely shut down Beckham. His antics made it seem like they were coming from a sore loser who had lost his cool. If he was dominating the Panthers and acting like that people would view it differently. It's just the way it goes.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:44 am to LNCHBOX
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I hope you aren't expecting anyone to take you seriously.
Do you care to point out your problem with what was said?
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:44 am to slackster
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If the offensive player is worried about throwing punches and acting like an idiot on the field, he certainly isn't worried about advancing the ball and helping his team win
Agree
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he defense does those kind of things because they work and they're effective at throwing a guy off of his game. The defense is the side that should be worried about tackling, not the offense. As soon as the offensive guy concerns himself with tackling a defender, the defender has effectively won.
I disagree with that. A defender's job, I believe, is much more complex because so much of what he does is reactionary. So if he is out of his mind, he is off of his game and not helping his team. The ONLY reason Norman didnt hurt his team more, is because Beckham was out of his mind. Had Beckham been more level headed and just let Norman keep going, he would've hurt his team as much. So basically what we are saying is if you play like an a-hole as a defender, it's ok as long as the offensive player goes nuts.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:46 am to slackster
You're OK with a stupid double standard and you are cool with Norman getting no punishment because "you know what you're getting." That kind of thinking is just plain stupid.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:46 am to lsuhunt555
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So basically what we are saying is if you play like an a-hole as a defender, it's ok as long as the offensive player goes nuts.
Precisely. If it works, no one is going to have a problem.
If it doesn't work you'll look like Finnegan has for most of his career.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:47 am to slackster
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because for 55 minutes they completely shut down Beckham.
Two first quarter passes Beckham had badly beaten Norman. One was dropped, the second was under thrown. Had he caught one of the two, then what would the excuse have been for Normans antics?
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