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re: Mack Brown in breach of coaches' poll contract
Posted on 1/6/09 at 12:14 am to Fububutsy
Posted on 1/6/09 at 12:14 am to Fububutsy
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Edited for relevance. Did they agree to these rules that were in place to decide the tiebreaker before the start of the season?
It's not like you're allowed to diagree with it, though.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 12:17 am to lsumatt
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So you want to eliminate OU, because TT should be eliminated via OU's dominant performance?
No, I want to elminate TT because THEY lost by 44 ( really 51) OU get eliminated for losing by 10 on a neutral field, while Texas lost on the road. Really not that hard to grasp. No matter who you go with, the others have a legit gripe. If Texas was in however, I don't OU's gripe is as convincing because they lost head-to-head. If TT was in, it'd be a joke because of OU's domination of them and the fact their win over UT was so close at home. In the end, I think out of UT and OU you could go either way, I think fewer people would have a problem if UT had gone, even though OU arguably had a better season.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 12:24 am to AlexLSU
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It's not like you're allowed to diagree with it, though.
They can disagree as much as they want. Just doesn't change the fact they agreed to it so they are just whining about the rules.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 12:26 am to H-Town Tiger
At the end of the day, this is what it comes down to:
1. They all had the same record.
2. UT lost by the least amount of points.
3. UT faced the toughest stretch of any of the three teams.
So at #1, they're all even. After 2 and 3, UT surpasses OU. Anyone giving TT equal treatment in this are simply going by the dumbass rule and not actually looking at it from an objective standpoint.
Either way the title game shapes up, UT will be griping throughout.
1. They all had the same record.
2. UT lost by the least amount of points.
3. UT faced the toughest stretch of any of the three teams.
So at #1, they're all even. After 2 and 3, UT surpasses OU. Anyone giving TT equal treatment in this are simply going by the dumbass rule and not actually looking at it from an objective standpoint.
Either way the title game shapes up, UT will be griping throughout.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 12:36 am to AlexLSU
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2. UT lost by the least amount of points.
Well then Oklahoma had the best +/- in points then.
They had a net total of +34
Texas had a net total of +4
Tech had a net total of -28
All a matter of perspective really.
This post was edited on 1/6/09 at 12:37 am
Posted on 1/6/09 at 12:36 am to Fububutsy
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Did they agree to these rules that were in place to decide the tiebreaker before the start of the season?
not necessarily. They may have opposed it, but got outvoted. Accepting the vote and supporting are 2 different things. Either way, knowing that the 6th tiebreaker is BCS rankings and you got 3rd in the BCS rankings, wtf do you expect them to say. "Oh, yeah, we beat them by 10, but rules are rules, they deserve it and we don't"
No matte what team you picked, someone would have gotten screwed. If it had been UT, OU would not have been screwed as bad and TT can STFU after losing by 51/44. If there is justice, UF beats OU soundly.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 12:38 am to Fububutsy
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Well then Oklahoma had the best +/- in points then.
They had a net total of +34
Texas had a net total of +4
Tech had a net total of -28
All a matter of perspective really.
Wins aren't the separating factor though, it's losses. It's how much, where, and to whom. Why? Because there was only ONE loss a piece. If you want to use a win in the formula, why not the other 11? The loss is the best way to determine because it's the easiest thing to pin point.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 12:46 am to AlexLSU
Because it takes into account how these teams faired relative to both teams in the tiebreaker with them, and not just in the one game they lost. I don't really care one way or the other and am just playing devils advocate though.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 12:58 am to Fububutsy
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Because it takes into account how these teams faired relative to both teams in the tiebreaker with them, and not just in the one game they lost. I don't really care one way or the other and am just playing devils advocate though.
That's true, but like I said, TT's performance against UT was more so due to UT's stretch before that. Plus, it's hard to compare them that way because OU got a home game/neutral game, while UT only got neutral/away, which is unfair.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 1:20 am to AlexLSU
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That's true, but like I said, TT's performance against UT was more so due to UT's stretch before that. Plus, it's hard to compare them that way because OU got a home game/neutral game, while UT only got neutral/away, which is unfair.
That is a valid point about the home/neutral and neutral/away factor. Truthfully, I find that a more valid reason than the stretch of games they played in. I buy it as an excuse for LSU back in 2005 when they played nine straight games, but this was only over a month, even if they were pretty intense.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 1:21 am to Fububutsy
Fair enough. I obviously believe what I believe in this situation, but you bring up some good points outside of the traditional "but they all beat each other" stuff. 
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