re: Jameis is going to be a better qb prospect than luck

Don't think Jameis has straight line speed like that. Probably has a slower cone time too.

Those are real legit points. A true passing qb kind of negates some of that, but it's a nice luxury for sure.

Yeah but if you're hearing he'd go #1 right now, why not share? The luck comparison is all me.

Right. I agree. But Winston has a stronger arm still.

Does it wash? Is one aspect more important than the other? Dunno.

Jameis Winston throws over frat house

Let's whip out some Jamarcus Russell youtube videos. Winston is obviously smarter than Russell but you get my drift. Arm strength is probably 3rd or 4th trait that you are analyzing or else Ryan Mallett and Jamarcus Russell would be starters.

Sure. If luck had the talent around him Jameis does, he would have never lost a game. Let's see how that plays out.

If Jameis goes 1 next year, we'll get access to all of the combine stuff and grades from all the sources.

If he still reasonably compares to luck, he'll have to be an immediate impact, franchise defining qb at the nfl level.

Luck sure has set the bar high. At least I step out on limbs with my predictions instead of branches.

I am not even sure where Luck ranks as far as arm strength. I remember him dropping dimes on us as a redshirt frosh.

Lets not forget Jameis turned Stanford down. He's no dummy either.

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I think Jameis => Luck from a throwing and running standpoint. Luck, however, was on a different level mentally than any college QB I have seen. Who knows if Jameis can get there by the end of next season?

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You don't know what's going on in either Luck or Winston's head. What we do know is Jameis was/is a good student and turned Stanford down. If Jameis takes the Stanford offer then your argument loses merit.

Winston is a stud college QB. Thats for sure. But, he hasnt played a real D yet, and FSU runs the score up on everybody. But, he is the best QB in college football right now. Cant argue that. And will he be the top pick in the draft when he comes out? yes.

And he very well might be as good a pro prospect as Luck was. But I doubt he will be better. And if I had to choose between the 2, I would go with Luck. Luck made Stanford relevant again in football, with average to below average skill players.

People dont realize what Luck really did his rookie year in the NFL and how special he really is. He went to the worst team in the NFL as far as talent wise by far. Only player he had worth a damn on offense was Reggie Wayne. Besides Wayne, it was Luck with a bunch of other rookie players(TY Hilton, Fleener, Allen,Ballard,etc.) The Colts also had no running game his rookie year, had a horrible D, and the worst OL in the NFL. Luck was hit the most in the NFL last year. What did Luck do his rookie year with that team?? Won 11 games, the same as Aaron Rodgers and the Packers, and went to the playoffs. And he made the Colts forget about Peyton Manning in 1 season. Also had 8 4th quarter comebacks in 1 season. Some people in here said that they dont think Luck is that special of a player. That stat alone proves everyone that said that wrong. To put that in context, Tom Brady has around 17-22(cant remember exact #) 4th quarter comeback wins in his ENTIRE career. I believe Luck has 9-10 in 23 games.

And look at what Luck has done this year already. Beat 3 of the top 5 teams in the NFL in the Seahawks, 49ers, and the Broncos where he out dueled Peyton Manning.

Lucks not a natural leader and Winsons a better leader? Ha ok. That alone could possibly be the worst statement in this thread. Andrew Luck is leading grown men in the NFL and his players love him and lay it on the line for him every game. Winston is leading 20 year old kids in college. Huge difference.

Winston will be the #1 player in his draft. No doubt about it. But I cant put him in the same category as Luck right now. In a year or so maybe. But not just yet. And he does have a flaw with his mechanics. And im sure hes working on it. But he throws the football like he throws a baseball. His arms muscle memory is used to throwing it like a baseball because hes always done it that way. But, 1 of the biggest things that people look at when it comes to a guys throwing motion is how quick can you get rid of the football. How quick can you go from being in the pocket, to getting the ball out of your hands. All of the great NFL QBs do that in .40 of a second and faster Winstons throwing motion takes a good bit longer. Actually his mechanics on the run are better than they are in the pocket with time. When hes on the run he has the ball up by his ear and looking down field and gets rid of it pretty quick. Way faster than when hes in the pocket. He uses the wind up throwing motion in the pocket. Im sure hes working on it, but its def a valid flaw of his game. Luck had 0 flaws.

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You don't know what's going on in either Luck or Winston's head. What we do know is Jameis was/is a good student and turned Stanford down. If Jameis takes the Stanford offer then your argument loses merit.

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Haha no it doesnt. It doesnt matter what type of student they are or what offers they had in regards to what they do on the football field with checks, calls, decisions, etc. Luck is 1 of the most cerebral QBs in the NFL right now. And only in his 2nd year. In his 1st practice in the NFL with the Colts, the players said there wasnt a diff with Luck and Manning. He came in day 1, knew every check and call perfectly, and then executed it. Luck virtually had no growing pains in the NFL his rookie year and came in and was a top 10 QB from day 1.