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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:04 am to
Posted by lsugolf1105
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:04 am to
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Not sure this is correct. I thought Chris got it to one on the back nine. I know Tiger didnt lose a 3 shot lead in one hole.


the 2005 masters is where he trailed going in to sunday. he trailed after 55 holes in the 2000 pga and i believe the 2008 us open, not the 2005 masters.
Posted by LSUGOLFER
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:07 am to
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Tiger Woods had previously won each of the thirteen major championships in which he entered the final round with at least a share of the lead, and his fourteenth was no different.


This quote says it all.

54 is not the same as 55.

He is the most mentally tough athlete of all time but this is in his head.
This post was edited on 6/20/10 at 11:09 am
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:08 am to
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he trailed after 55 holes


Where is this 55 holes coming from???? After the third round 54 holes have been played. Once The final round starts is after 54 holes.
Posted by lsugolf1105
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:09 am to
correction, he trailed in the 2000 pga was after 56 holes to bob may.
Posted by COTiger
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:10 am to
Posted by lsugolf1105
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:11 am to
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Where is this 55 holes coming from???? After the third round 54 holes have been played. Once The final round starts is after 54 holes


my point is that he has come from behind in the last round and has come from behind when trailing going into sunday. i dont see what "winning when trailing after 54 holes" means to tiger woods. it means nothing.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:12 am to
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correction, he trailed in the 2000 pga was after 56 holes to bob may.


Its called trailing going into the final round. NOT after the final round starts. You just are NOT getting it.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:13 am to
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54 is not the same as 55.


You're right, it's even harder to come back after 55.

quote:

He is the most mentally tough athlete of all time but this is in his head.



doubtful. Like Fore said, if he's trailing after 54, it's usually because he's not playing great that week. Otherwise, you know, he wouldn't be trailing. The biggest threat to Tiger winning today is that he's 5 shots back of the dude who's playing the best golf of the week. It won't be because of some mental block of this arbitrary 54 number he can't overcome.
Posted by lsugolf1105
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:14 am to
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Its called trailing going into the final round. NOT after the final round starts. You just are NOT getting it.


what's the difference? sleeping on it? he has done this.
Posted by LSUGOLFER
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:14 am to
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my point is that he has come from behind in the last round


Not really. He lost the lead and regained it.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:15 am to
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Its called trailing going into the final round. NOT after the final round starts. You just are NOT getting it.


wouldn't trailing after 56 holes theoretically be more difficult than after 54?
Posted by LSUGOLFER
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:15 am to
4/16 under par this morning

Just like my boy told me.
Posted by LSUGOLFER
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:16 am to
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wouldn't trailing after 56 holes theoretically be more difficult than after 54?


It is going into the final round leading that has him by the shirt. He hasnt won going into the final round losing in a Major Ever.

Also Tiger rarely looks at the leaderboard when leading. He is in his own world.
This post was edited on 6/20/10 at 11:18 am
Posted by lsugolf1105
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:19 am to
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It is going into the final round leading that has him by the shirt. He hasnt won going into the final round losing in a Major Ever.


you sound like skip bayless. if you really think this stat "has him by the shirt," you are nuts.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:19 am to
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4/16 under par this morning

Just like my boy told me.


He told you 25% of the 16 worst golfers this week would be under par? Yet you think all the leaders are gonna go out and shoot 75s?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:20 am to
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wouldn't trailing after 56 holes theoretically be more difficult than after 54?


I agree with this . However its about him traling AFTER 54 Holes. What goes on in the final round is a different story.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:20 am to
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It is going into the final round leading that has him by the shirt.


so he goes to hell in a hand-basket mentally when trailing after 54, but he's fine when he's trailing after 56??
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:24 am to
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However its about him traling AFTER 54 Holes.


actually it's about a largely meaningless statistic that must be further analyzed to gain any serious context...
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:24 am to
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so he goes to hell in a hand-basket mentally when trailing after 54, but he's fine when he's trailing after 56??


Here is the bottom line. If he wins today this whole thread is done. So if Tiger happens to somehow have the lead after 9 holes and then falls behind and then regains the lead Do we give him credit for winng after trailing after 63 holes????
Posted by LSUGOLFER
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:25 am to
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so he goes to hell in a hand-basket mentally when trailing after 54, but he's fine when he's trailing after 56??


Man....I guess you dont play Tournament golf. It is totally different going into the last round losing than leading. Your gameplan changes hugely. You always stick to it though no matter what. Unless you are losing by 2 or more with 7 holes left. You Have to be more aggressive when trailing, its the mentality. Not so much when leading a Major.
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