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re: Could this year be the last year that teams schedule easy blowout games?

Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:34 am to
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:34 am to
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Can they help that? College football is constantly changing. Five years ago or so, Ohio State was the SEC's whipping boy. Now...things have changed. They look better than any SEC team.

Look at the top 25...Baylor at #4 - they are customarily one of the worst teams in the NCAA, TCU at #3 isn't too far off from Baylor, Michigan State (and not Michigan) at #5, UCLA and Ole Miss in the top #15. Things change.

In a few years from now we could potentially see Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Michigan State and Michigan in the top 10. Just enjoy the season. We haven't even kicked off week two yet...


I agree with you and that was my point. They can't load up 4 P5 schools OOC for 6 years from now on the chance their conference still sucks

I think they deserve to be punished seed wise as was said in here but if they run through their schedule there is no way they should be left out. It's weak but isn't a mid major
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:35 am to
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by ShaneTheLegLechler But they can't control what their conference schedule is


It doesn't matter if it's a conference game or not. A rent a win game is a rent a win game. Ohio st gets at least as many rent a win games within their own conference each year than sec or pac12 teams get from 2-3 ooc games.

Ohio st should be scheduling difficult ooc games to boost their sos. It's no different than Boise trying to schedule all power 5 teams ooc for those few years
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:37 am to
How are they supposed to predict the future? Most OOC games with other P5 teams are scheduled so far in advance its impossible to tell what the landscape will be
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:38 am to
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12Pence


Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:38 am to
They're not supposed to predict their future. They also shouldn't be rewarded for scheduling harder ooc games when their conference games are terrible. Their season should be judged on it's own merits.

If they go undefeated against their schedule and nobody else does they should and will be in. If they have 1 loss, and 4 other teams have 1 loss, the overall SOS absolutely needs to become a factor.
This post was edited on 9/10/15 at 11:42 am
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:40 am to
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I think they deserve to be punished seed wise


I'm reluctant on this. They look so good. I just don't like to see a team punished for going 12-0 when they can't help the quality of their opponent.

What about giving a 10-2 or 9-3 SEC Champion preference over some other team at #4 (say a TCU/Baylor loser, or 1 loss ACC team, etc.)
This post was edited on 9/10/15 at 11:41 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:42 am to
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It doesn't matter if it's a conference game or not. A rent a win game is a rent a win game. Ohio st gets at least as many rent a win games within their own conference each year than sec or pac12 teams get from 2-3 ooc games.

Ohio st should be scheduling difficult ooc games to boost their sos. It's no different than Boise trying to schedule all power 5 teams ooc for those few years


I don't think the Big Ten is as bad as you hope it is. It's probably not any worse than last year.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:43 am to
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OK?


Ok what? That's as difficult a conference slate as you can get in the B1G. They also play at Oklahoma.

People act like they're dodging teams. They aren't.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:43 am to
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It's probably not any worse than last year.


At the end of the season it turned out that it wasn't bad at all.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:44 am to
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What about giving a 10-2 or 9-3 SEC Champion preference over some other team at #4 (say a TCU/Baylor loser, or 1 loss ACC team, etc.)


Until the Big 12 plays a CCG instead of Iowa State in December, I'll take an 11-2 SEC champ over 11-1 TCU/Baylor all day, every day.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:44 am to
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I don't think the Big Ten is as bad as you hope it is.


That's cute, but you're wrong.

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It's probably not any worse than last year.


Is that supposed to be some kind of ringing endorsement?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:46 am to
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They also shouldn't be rewarded for scheduling harder ooc games when their conference games are terrible.


I don't think they are
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:48 am to
The fact that that's being labeled as a difficult slate proves the sheer shittiness of the current conference.

I'm not even sure any of these teams will be in the top 25 next year

B1G apologists are truly the most deluded of them all.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:49 am to
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I don't think they are


See the first reply to this thread
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:50 am to
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That's cute, but you're wrong.


And you know this after week 1 because? People said the same last year and it turned out all right for B1G teams. The SEC West had a first week like this year and how did their bowl season turn out?
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:51 am to
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B1G apologists are truly the most deluded of them all.


I don't even understand why Ohio st fans get so worked up over this. Their schedule is terrible, no doubt about it. But if they go undefeated, or probably even have 1 loss, they're going to be in the playoff. So why do they get so upset over it?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:52 am to
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The fact that that's being labeled as a difficult slate proves the sheer shittiness of the current conference.


I know you're a better reader than that. I said it was as difficult as it can get in the B1G. You also don't know how good those teams will be next year. Harbaugh will be in his second year and Penn State should have a full roster after the sanctions depleted them.

I don't apologize for anything B1G. In fact, I truly don't give a frick about the rest of them.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41875 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:53 am to
It's blew my mind for nearly a decade my friend.

Hell they're proud that the conference went ~.500 in bowl games last year.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41875 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:54 am to
Michigan has no QB for the foreseeable future.

And Penn state might be hiring a new coach at the current rate.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 11:54 am to
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At the end of the season it turned out that it wasn't bad at all.


Exactly, yet everyone wants to make wild assumptions based on one week. After a few weeks last year, the Big Ten had losses to Oregon, LSU, Notre Dame (twice), TCU, Virginia Tech, Utah, West Virginia, Washington, Cal, Northern Illinois, Iowa State, Bowling Green, and Central Michigan. Nebraska also had a battle with an FCS team.

Everyone counted the Big Ten out of the playoff before all teams had even played a conference game. Yet, by the end of the season, they turned out to be one of the better conferences.
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