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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:11 pm to
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people gave real coins that have established values today to a wallet address in hopes they receive something in the future at an unknown quantity and unknown value.


yes
Posted by Got Heeem
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:12 pm to
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I stated I know nothing and am asking someone to explain it like I'm 5.

Think about a bank CD. You lock up your money and receive a specific interest. It's not dynamic because you don't have price appreciation.

Hex is inflationary for those who don't stake. Stakers get paid inflation and early-end penalties.

Stakers delay gratification to earn interest as well as price appreciation of the coin.

The whole design of Hex is to hold and protect the price. Bitcoin miners have negative externalities. Electricity, mining equipment, etc. So what do they do? Dump the price. Not good for price.

Hex stakers are rewarded to do the opposite. Protect the price. Hold and not dump. The only negative externality of Hex is Ethereum, and that's being solved with pulsechain.

Look at the Hex chart compared to everything else and you'll understand that it's different in a good way. Hexicans hold. Price goes up. Hexicans are in for the long haul. Nearly 6 years on average locked up.

I'd be more than happy to share more for those genuinely interested!
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:13 pm to
Yea I hope HEX succeeds because I do like the idea of Pulse chain competing with ETH
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:14 pm to
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Yea I hope HEX succeeds because I do like the idea of Pulse chain competing with ETH


but its no different than BSC or polygon in that sense

forks of ETH or L2s

This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Got Heeem
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:14 pm to
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I cannot wrap my head around that sacrifice...people gave real coins that have established values today to a wallet address in hopes they receive something in the future at an unknown quantity and unknown value.
Vitalik did the exact same thing with Ethereum.
Posted by Got Heeem
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:17 pm to
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but its no different than BSC or polygon in that sense
Quite a bit different. Polygon has admin keys. Eff that.

BSC has this weird hybrid coin thing. It also doesn't have coin burn built into the contract like Pulsechain will. It has to be done by someone and that ends soon altogether. Pulse is deflationary from day one automatically via 25% of every fee burned and will be that way forever.

Oh, and the whole ETH system stake is being copied over to bring adoption day 1.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:18 pm to
So the purpose of the coin is a currency? Or a store of value? I understand the metrics of how it works now but what gives it value?

For example, what gives ETH value is the ability to build apps onto of its blockchain. What gives BTC value is it the fact that it is the largest, most secure, decentralized network in the world with a fixed/known coin quantity and ability to make secure payments.

What is giving HEX its value?
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 1:19 pm
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:22 pm to
BNB and Cake both burn coins all the time fwiw

with that said, if pulse is deflationary and the fees are low it might run well, yeah.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Got Heeem
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:22 pm to
In a nutshell, HEX is Bitcoin with proof of wait. It's better in every way.

Bitcoin-Proof of work
-Hardware miners
-Electricty
-Miners dump coins
-Terrible for price

HEX-Proof of Stake/Proof of Wait
-No equipment
-No electricity
-No dumping by stakers
-Price is protected and appreciates
-Inflation paid to stakers
-Emergency End Stakes paid to stakers
Posted by Got Heeem
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:24 pm to
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BNB and Cake both burn coins all the time fwiw
Dude. I said BNB burns coins, but it's NOT in the code to do so. It's done manually and that ends very soon.

quote:

if pulse is deflationary and the fees or low it might run well, yeah.
this is a fact. Deflationary on day 1 and low fees. Fraction of pennies.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:26 pm to
Next question - will the new Pulse chain have its own coin? If so, where does that come into play related to HEX? Will HEX coin and Pulse coin do similar or different things?
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:27 pm to
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I cannot wrap my head around that sacrifice...people gave real coins that have established values today to a wallet address in hopes they receive something in the future at an unknown quantity and unknown value.


It's not very different than buying most penny stocks.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:30 pm to
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It's not very different than buying most penny stocks.
Well yes it is. You buy a penny stock at a known value and quantity the second you purchase it.

I saw someone compare it to an IPO which does make sense. Early investors in a company that go to IPO have a percentage of equity in a company that doesn't yet have a public value.
Posted by Got Heeem
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:31 pm to
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Next question - will the new Pulse chain have its own coin?
Yes. It's called Pulse (it's the gas coin for pulsechain just like ETH is for Ethereum). That's what the sacrifice was for.

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If so, where does that come into play related to HEX?
Hex and pulse are completely independent things.

quote:

Will HEX coin and Pulse coin do similar or different things?
Hex on the pulsechain will be identical in code to Hex on Ethereum. Hex is a blockchain CD. Staking is time locked. Pulse will be stakeable, but not time locked and it'll be different.

Hex is inflationary
Pulse is deflationary
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:32 pm to
gotcha. I will say even tho I think Richard looks like a weasel he does seem to be a credible guy that cares a lot more about his reputation than doing a rug pull and fricking people over
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 1:34 pm
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:33 pm to
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I saw someone compare it to an IPO which does make sense. Early investors in a company that go to IPO have a percentage of equity in a company that doesn't yet have a public value.


That's what Pulse did. You get roughly 10,0000 Pulse for every $ you donated. You can view the total sacrificed amount and roughly calculate your % of equity.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:35 pm to
Appreciate the info, I like the idea and wish I could add a little HEX just to be a part of the ride. I'm on 6 exchanges and won't allow myself to add another. I also don't mess with the Cake options so I'll just be a crypto boomer and watch from the bleachers
Posted by Got Heeem
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:37 pm to
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gotcha. I will say even tho I think Richard looks like a weasel he does seem to be a credible guy that cares a lot more about his reputation than doing a rug pull and fricking people over
The more you hear from him, the more you realize he cares about integrity, especially in the crypto space. He calls BS what it is and he's been rich for a long long time.

His pride and arrogance and the chip on his shoulder will be what propels him to make his projects a huge success. He won't ever sell. He will protect the price by any means necessary.

To some people that's bad, but to most it's a huge benefit.



Thanks for the good discussion
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:38 pm to
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and the airdrop snapshot date is still unknown (1-2 months they claim but it could be delayed until 2022); so theyre obviously anxious about the whole thing


You literally have no idea what you are talking about.

Can we compare gains at the end of this year? You’ve been talking shite non stop.

Also. give me a date in which you’ll stop saying hex is an exit scam.
You’ve been saying that since the first time I posted about it in here. It’s been well over a year since then.
Sad part is, i don’t care that you don’t buy hex, it’s the fact that you’ve made up shite that is untrue.

It’s sad.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:40 pm to
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Thanks for the good discussion
See how productive things go when we engage in discourse rather than hostility?
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