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Debt to income ratio (front end and back end)

Posted on 11/13/13 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75183 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 2:50 pm
Front end is monthly mortgage note divided by gross monthly income, back end is revolving debt divided by gross monthly income, is this correct?

Also, what is considered healthy for a loan. Front end % and back end %, 30, 40%?

Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35525 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 2:55 pm to
Depends on the down payment and whether it is conventional, FHA, VA or other financing. Back end as you put it is mortgage obligation plus all other monthly recurring debt.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75183 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 2:56 pm to
What's the minimum down on a 30 year fixed conventional non fha loan?
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
6784 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 3:05 pm to
I'm pretty sure you can go as low as 5% down with good credit.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75183 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 3:40 pm to
Over 700 credit score? How does it work for a married couples credit score, are they combined?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35525 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

How does it work for a married couples credit score, are they combined?


I'm almost certain they factor in each score individually. So if your wife is the woman from that commercial with a 500 score and you are 700 and can qualify financially on your own you can still buy a house.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75183 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 6:18 pm to
So it's a moot point if both scores are over 700?
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

What's the minimum down on a 30 year fixed conventional non fha loan?


3%
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75183 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 6:23 pm to
Link? For a non fha loan?
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 6:46 pm to
Call a few banks, one will do it. Hawk or VA will confirm. I could be wrong, but I believe it's a 95/5 but if you finance the pmi lender can go up to 97%
Posted by DandyPimp
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
1090 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 8:35 pm to
What about jumbo loan? I'm hearing you need at least 20% down
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75183 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 8:39 pm to
Why would a Jimbo require such a high down payment?
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
6784 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

Over 700 credit score? How does it work for a married couples credit score, are they combined?


Over 700 FICO score, you should have no problem. I know my credit union required a 680 for 5% down. You will still have to pay PMI but it's MUCH less than FHA. They will go off of your middle FICO score from the 3 bureaus (Equifax, Experian and TransUnion) and will use the lower middle score of you or your wife. If you're both over 700, that's a moot point.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5851 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:57 am to
paul: if you have a 680 or up credit score you can put as little as 5% down non FHA loan. if your married they take the lowest middle credit score between the 2 of you. jumbo loan require 20% down because PMI companys will not insure jumbo loans. jumbo loans are all loans over 417k. debt to income ratios max are 45% on the back end and we use gross income to calculate that. front end is 40%. if you post an email address i will email you and answer any other questions you might have.
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