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BRRRR Method: Tips? and Questions on the Refinancing

Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:47 am
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15559 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:47 am
I'm really pushing myself to get into Real Estate Investments. I've been studying BiggerPockets material and listening to their podcasts all day. These guys are awesome!

It definitely seems like the best way to get started and grow your holdings quickly is the BRRRR method:

Buy
Renovate
Rent
Refinance
Repeat

The idea is that it combines the instant equity and value-add that house flipping brings, with the long-term financial freedom and stability of rental properties. Also, it allows an investor to use private capital to get a short-term loan, and then refinance and pay off the private money investor and enjoy your instant equity and lower monthly payments.

However, they said that sometimes, a bank won't let you refinance until 6 months after the sale. Is this true with most mortgage lenders in LA? Also, what max percentage can you usually refinance? I know 70% is somewhat common. Anyone have any experience with this method?
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 9:52 am
Posted by cmlsu
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2011
659 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 1:27 pm to
You will have the best luck with a local bank who will do in-house/portfolio loans if you want to refinance with no seasoning period. It’s gonna be a commercial loan with commercial termss.

As far as percent of cash out...I’ve done 75%-80% of ARV.
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15559 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:39 am to
Thanks for the response! That’s great. What rate were you able to get, if you don’t mind me asking?
Posted by cmlsu
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2011
659 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:32 pm to
5 yr amortized over 20...5.75 %

Rates have gone up since then. (Fall 2017)
Posted by StealthCalais11
Lurker since 2007
Member since Aug 2011
12449 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:57 pm to
I highly recommend glossing over the stickied threads if you haven't already. It's a wealth of knowledge.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1944 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:29 pm to
Haven't ran a lot of scenarios doing this method, but you will get the best deals on something unwanted, and have the most appreation if it's in an area that is desired.

Just recognize the lost income during the process. 6-12 months might cost you 1500 a month and the cost of the loan.

If you bought ready to rent or even with a tenant already in, that's immediate income ready to compound in another investment.
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