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re: Your Level of Trust in Les Miles
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:38 pm to GeauxBob
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:38 pm to GeauxBob
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Reality is we need a true DC and then 3 position coaches. We have 2 DCs and 1 position coach (where all they do is coach a position).
I'm on board with this.
I wonder who realistically will be available after the season.
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Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:40 pm to tigerzeye
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I wonder who realistically will be available after the season.
frick "available".
Throw money at the TCU guy.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:42 pm to Luke4LSU
10+
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:44 pm to blueboy
He gets a pass this year because of Perillioux and the co DC thing. But if he doesn't hire a DC after this year and do something about the fact that JL is horrible my trust in Les will be in freefall.
And in spite of what it did to us, getting rid of Perillioux was the right thing to do.
And in spite of what it did to us, getting rid of Perillioux was the right thing to do.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:44 pm to tigerzeye
We need to give Mallory and PEveto an extension
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:45 pm to Luke4LSU
won't know until the end of the season. if he fires these jokers then I'll trust him, if not then he's another Dinardo who can recruit but does not maximize the utility of his talent **cough Chad Jones
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:47 pm to Tigahs
level was low came up some with the national championship....although we backed into it....and now it is right back where it was when he gave his first presser..............believe me his stay will be short
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:49 pm to faxis
Why does he get a pass on the Co-DC thing? He made that decision. His reasoning was completely and utterly stupid, and now its biting us in the arse.
Reality is that he didn't want to let any one of his coaches go, and brought in Robinson for Special Teams.
Reality is that he didn't want to let any one of his coaches go, and brought in Robinson for Special Teams.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:54 pm to faxis
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He gets a pass this year because of Perillioux and the co DC thing
He gets a pass because he is a National Championship winning coach. If you have been around LSU very long, you may have noticed how rare these guys are.
Saban couldn't even pull in the AP voters, not that he tried very hard at all, but Miles did & got a unified National Title for LSU. First since 1958.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:57 pm to Sammich
Sammich, claiming Miles did something that Saban didn't with the AP title is utterly stupid. Miles also is the first coach to ever get an MNC with 2 losses. That isn't a sign of anything other than pure luck and nothing more.
Miles is a good coach, but his NC is more controversial than the 2003 one by 10x.
Miles is a good coach, but his NC is more controversial than the 2003 one by 10x.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 2:00 pm to Rocket
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We need to give Mallory and PEveto an extension
Posted on 11/2/08 at 2:01 pm to Luke4LSU
I will hold off on judgement until after the season. I know it is hard to fathom, but it is possible that we end up with the same regular season record as last year's national championship team.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 2:03 pm to GeauxBob
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Why does he get a pass on the Co-DC thing? He made that decision. His reasoning was completely and utterly stupid, and now its biting us in the arse.
Bob, are you under the impression a Colleges in DIV 1A is allowed to hire as many Coaches as they want??
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Reality is that he didn't want to let any one of his coaches go, and brought in Robinson for Special Teams.
Why would he? Coming off a National Championship season, you don't start trying to "Fix" things.
BTW, LSU is now the #21 Total Defense in the Nation. (Not from ESPN...from the NCAA) I expect that number to get down to around #9-#13 or thereabouts.
This post was edited on 11/2/08 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 11/2/08 at 2:04 pm to Springlake Tiger
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I know it is hard to fathom, but it is possible that we end up with the same regular season record as last year's national championship team
It's not that hard to fathom. If we win next week, it's likely.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 2:05 pm to tigerzeye
Decreasing, have not seen the team improve as the season continues.Some of the glaring mistakes they are continuing to make is due to coaching. Miles is the head coach, making over 3 million in fact closer to 4 , so thats where the buck stops!!!!!
Posted on 11/2/08 at 2:08 pm to GeauxBob
quote:Well said. It seems as if Miles made the big mistake, and now is trying to defend the indefensible. Unless he makes a big, bold change soon as this season ends, he's here no more than two more years.
It's decreased, but not because of his decision to not end the Co-DC thing now, but for ever supporting it in the first place. I lost respect in him for knowingly minimizing the leadership experience on the side of the team he has little experience.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 2:08 pm to Sammich
We may very well get down to top 15 defense, but that's not likely and besides the point.
We have one good defensive game and you think our defense is going to move up 10 spots with the remaining games?
Troy's offense is better than Tulane's, as are Bama's, OM's and Arky's. They are all improving (with Bama somewhat struggling of late), but they will not be walkovers like Tulane who lost its best 2 offensive players prior to the LSU game.
We have one good defensive game and you think our defense is going to move up 10 spots with the remaining games?
Troy's offense is better than Tulane's, as are Bama's, OM's and Arky's. They are all improving (with Bama somewhat struggling of late), but they will not be walkovers like Tulane who lost its best 2 offensive players prior to the LSU game.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 2:16 pm to GeauxBob
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Sammich, claiming Miles did something that Saban didn't with the AP title is utterly stupid.
No Bob, it true. What else is true is that LSU shares the 2003 National Championship with Southern Cal because they won the AP Vote.
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Miles also is the first coach to ever get an MNC with 2 losses. That isn't a sign of anything other than pure luck and nothing more.
Another 1st for Miles. He also knocked off the undisputed #1 ranked team in Ohio State, along with their #1 NCAA ranked Defense to win the National Championship for LSU.
"Pure luck" is Not scoring 1 offensive point & losing to a Zooker Florida team in 2003. Having Eli Manning fall on his arse in the 2003 Ole Miss game & needing several teams to pull upsets, one of which was Hawaii, just to secure the BCS NC bid.
Miles had a damned good point, his team was undefeated in regulation. That's both smart & very clever when he mentioned it to the media. Saban, did not & could not politic his way out of a wet paper bag, so Pete Carroll was the only one that did any politicking & he won over the AP voters.
This post was edited on 11/2/08 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 11/2/08 at 2:17 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Staying the same. We won a national championship last season and are having the season that we were expected to have this year
Agreed
Posted on 11/2/08 at 2:22 pm to Sammich
Ummm... The fact is that you can't compare the two circumstances like that.
First off, in 2003, computers and SOS kept OU in the title game against LSU. Had the system used now been used then. LSU would've played USC.
Everyone last year knew tOSU was a fraud and even Herbstreit claimed they didn't belong.
Did it not take a rash of upsets to get LSU back into the MNC game last season? Seriously? Pitt had to beat WVU, OU had to beat Mizzou, etc.
Being the first 2 loss championship team is not something to brag about. We can claim we are champions, fine, but don't go claiming we did something amazing by being the first 2-loss MNC.
As for the OT-losses. Bad coaching cost us those games. We should've won both, plain and simple. Stupid coaching decisions by Miles and Pelini costs us both of those games.
In the end, both coaches are good coaches, but at least I can admit Saban accounted for his weaknesses by hiring more assistant coaches on that side of the ball. Miles cannot have the same said for him.
First off, in 2003, computers and SOS kept OU in the title game against LSU. Had the system used now been used then. LSU would've played USC.
Everyone last year knew tOSU was a fraud and even Herbstreit claimed they didn't belong.
Did it not take a rash of upsets to get LSU back into the MNC game last season? Seriously? Pitt had to beat WVU, OU had to beat Mizzou, etc.
Being the first 2 loss championship team is not something to brag about. We can claim we are champions, fine, but don't go claiming we did something amazing by being the first 2-loss MNC.
As for the OT-losses. Bad coaching cost us those games. We should've won both, plain and simple. Stupid coaching decisions by Miles and Pelini costs us both of those games.
In the end, both coaches are good coaches, but at least I can admit Saban accounted for his weaknesses by hiring more assistant coaches on that side of the ball. Miles cannot have the same said for him.
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