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re: Your Level of Trust in Les Miles
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:04 pm to Sammich
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:04 pm to Sammich
ummm... seeing as they had 110 rushing yards in the first half last night that is what i was referring to. Last night the defensive statistics showed 110 yards rushing in the first half, so excuse my misinterpretation.
Fact is Tulane moved the ball on us in the first half with ease, and committed penalties to screw up their drives.
The defense still hasn't shown any discipline and is way out of position.
Call me a bandwagon fan all you want, but I've supported LSU sports probably longer than you've been alive.
Fact is Tulane moved the ball on us in the first half with ease, and committed penalties to screw up their drives.
The defense still hasn't shown any discipline and is way out of position.
Call me a bandwagon fan all you want, but I've supported LSU sports probably longer than you've been alive.
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Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:04 pm to Luke4LSU
Decreasing, because the team isn't playing any better now than at the beginning of the season. In fact, it may be playing worse.
I did not expect another NC, or another SEC championship, but I expected to be competitive in the 2 or 3 games lost, and expected the team to be getting better by now.
I did not expect another NC, or another SEC championship, but I expected to be competitive in the 2 or 3 games lost, and expected the team to be getting better by now.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:05 pm to Luke4LSU
Stayed the same. Miles will be fine.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:07 pm to GeauxBob
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It's decreased, but not because of his decision to not end the Co-DC thing now, but for ever supporting it in the first place. I lost respect in him for knowingly minimizing the leadership experience on the side of the team he has little experience.
Les is not the 1st coach to have co-coorinators. I know Mack Brown had co-DCs at Texas one time, and didnt' Florida have them when they won the NC in '06? I'm not sure it's the co-DC philosophy as it is these 2 particlar DCs just suck.
I'm a Miles Maniac For Life, but I have to say my trust has decreased a bit. This team has played 8 games and only really came out prepared for 1 of them, I think. And I thought it was retarded to put Jefferson in last night with 4 minutes left. If he's going to play, let him fricking play. If not, I'm sure T.J. McCarthy would love to hand the ball off a few times.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:11 pm to blueboy
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The team has plyed sloppy during the entire Les Miles era.
Miles didn't lose 4 games in year 1 or 5 games in year 3 like Saban did.
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I think he wins on talent, much like Fulmer did years ago, and like Fulmer, he might just run out, lose good assistants and fall off the edge.
ALL coaches win on talent. There are very few who own National Championships from the BCS, Coaches & AP. ALL Coaches depend on Assistants.
As for the Mike Archer remark, don't remember him winning a National Championship at LSU or anywhere. In fact, I remember him having 1 double digit WIN season, and then tanking.
This post was edited on 11/2/08 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:13 pm to Luke4LSU
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Your Level of Trust in Les Miles
Somewhere between a rock and a hard place.
Good coaches attract good assistants. Just sayin'
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:17 pm to GeauxBob
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Last night the defensive statistics showed 110 yards rushing in the first half, so excuse my misinterpretation.
Where? Tulane finished the game with 72 yards rushing, 92 passing. End of you misinterpretation.
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Call me a bandwagon fan all you want, but I've supported LSU sports probably longer than you've been alive.
Really Bob? How old are you?
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:20 pm to Luke4LSU
Staying the same. It will decrease if he doesn't hire a defensive coordinator.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:21 pm to LSUDonkeyKong
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Good coaches attract good assistants. Just sayin'
Gary Crowton and Bo Pelini were probably the 2 most respected coaches at their respective positions in the nation at the time they were hired. The thing Les has done the best at LSU is bring in great assistants. Peveto appears to be his worst hire--he sucks cock. And Mallory sucks at DC, but I think he's probably a good position coach.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:21 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
quote:I would agree with the exception that I didn't expect our loss at Florida to be as big as it was, and if you would have told me that we would score 38 in regulation against UGA I'd have thought that we would surely win that one.
Staying the same. We won a national championship last season and are having the season that we were expected to have this year.
We are having the season we wee expecting as far as our record goes.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:23 pm to LSUDonkeyKong
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Good coaches attract good assistants. Just sayin'
Pelini was a world class coordinator who was hired away to take a job at a historical top 20 program with no HC experience. Crowton is one of the finest OCs in college football history, and certainly one of the best over the past 20 years.
Just sayin' (And I agree that we need to hire a real defensive coordinator, and I'm very hopeful that we will in the off-season.)
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:23 pm to tigerzeye
I like Crowton. Pelini was okay. The defense the last two years has been absolutely horrific. I don't know why I'm the only person that sees this.
Kentucky, Arkansas, Florida, and Georgia have all spotted 50 over the past two years. Yet people seem convinced the D has been a one year problem.
Kentucky, Arkansas, Florida, and Georgia have all spotted 50 over the past two years. Yet people seem convinced the D has been a one year problem.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:25 pm to Sammich
Sammich,
last night at half-time of the gamewas the last time I looked at the stats, and ESPN's box score stated they had 110 yards rushing so excuse my misinterpretation. At that point they had 160 yards of total offense. And watching the second half, I was pretty sure they got more than 3 yards, so ESPN messed up and I didn't check the stats again, excuse me.
Reality is the team played well defensively in the second half, but you cannot compare this Tulane team to the one that played BAMA. They had their two best players then, who were out for the rest of the season before last nights game.
Still, I think LSU has a good shot to beat Bama, but I feel that I am nowhere near confident about it.
last night at half-time of the gamewas the last time I looked at the stats, and ESPN's box score stated they had 110 yards rushing so excuse my misinterpretation. At that point they had 160 yards of total offense. And watching the second half, I was pretty sure they got more than 3 yards, so ESPN messed up and I didn't check the stats again, excuse me.
Reality is the team played well defensively in the second half, but you cannot compare this Tulane team to the one that played BAMA. They had their two best players then, who were out for the rest of the season before last nights game.
Still, I think LSU has a good shot to beat Bama, but I feel that I am nowhere near confident about it.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:27 pm to LSUDonkeyKong
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Pelini was okay.
All 3 of his defenses at LSU finished top 5 nationally.
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The defense the last two years has been absolutely horrific
It wasn't great last year, but it wasn't horrific. I think we finished #3 in total defense. It wasn't as good as '06, but it was still pretty good.
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Kentucky, Arkansas, Florida, and Georgia have all spotted 50 over the past two years.
the 2 last year were in triple OT
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Yet people seem convinced the D has been a one year problem.
the D definitely started to slip a bit toward the 2nd half of last year, but that doens't change the fact that Bo Pelini was a fantastic hire at the time. There was simply not a better one to be made.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:28 pm to tigerzeye
tigerzeye, in almost all of the co-coordinator systems, one of the DCs had experience at the position. In this case, neither has had DC experience at any large programs. Also, in many cases Co-DC has been exposed, including in your examples such as at UT last season. Their defense was HORRIBLE!
The system doesn't work, and Miles being an offensive guy needed/needs to bring in an experienced leader on the defensive side of the ball, but he cared more about loyalty to some half-arse assistant.
The system doesn't work, and Miles being an offensive guy needed/needs to bring in an experienced leader on the defensive side of the ball, but he cared more about loyalty to some half-arse assistant.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:29 pm to Sammich
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LSU gave up 163 total yards to a Tulane team. Bama allowed 319 total yards to a Tulane team.
Which Defense gave up more yardage?
Comparisons like that don't hold water. Miss State only gave up 3 points to Auburn and Auburn shut out Miss State. What did LSU give to each team? See what I'm sayin'. None of that matters on Saturday.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:29 pm to LSUDonkeyKong
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The defense the last two years has been absolutely horrific. I don't know why I'm the only person that sees this.
LSU Won the Natonal Champiosnhipo with a=n absolutely horriffic Defense? LSU Ranked #3 Nationally in Total Defense in 2006 & 2007.
You & the SLoFloPro are the only ones to "See this" because neither of you know what you are talking about.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:33 pm to GeauxBob
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tigerzeye, in almost all of the co-coordinator systems, one of the DCs had experience at the position. In this case, neither has had DC experience at any large programs. Also, in many cases Co-DC has been exposed, including in your examples such as at UT last season. Their defense was HORRIBLE!
The system doesn't work, and Miles being an offensive guy needed/needs to bring in an experienced leader on the defensive side of the ball, but he cared more about loyalty to some half-arse assistant.
I'm not neccessarily defending the co system, just saying it's been done before. And I'm not sure if it's the system or the 2 running it that are sucking so bad this year. Could be one or the other--could be both. Whatever it is, it needs to be rectified. And even though I didn't like the move at the time it was made, maybe there just weren't a whole lot of other options.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:35 pm to Sammich
I did not expect another NC, or another SEC championship, but I expected to be competitive in the 2 or 3 games lost, and expected the team to be getting better by now.
Yeah, lot of people only look at the W-L record. LSu really hasn't beaten a "good" team and looked pretty poor when they have played one. I wouldn't say confidence in Miles has decreased, personally, I think next season will tell more than this. I am disappointed in the play, the lack of progress. But am willing to wait until next to make it a referrendum. Anyone with football knowledge can see the D is piss poor this year though. I think the fans would like some assurance that things will improve.
Yeah, lot of people only look at the W-L record. LSu really hasn't beaten a "good" team and looked pretty poor when they have played one. I wouldn't say confidence in Miles has decreased, personally, I think next season will tell more than this. I am disappointed in the play, the lack of progress. But am willing to wait until next to make it a referrendum. Anyone with football knowledge can see the D is piss poor this year though. I think the fans would like some assurance that things will improve.
Posted on 11/2/08 at 1:37 pm to tigerzeye
I think a bigger issue is the coaches and not the system. They really aren't DC material, and we have 4 full-time coaches on defense, and 5 full-time coaches on offense. That is the problem given that Miles is an offensive guy.
Reality is we need a true DC and then 3 position coaches. We have 2 DCs and 1 position coach (where all they do is coach a position).
Reality is we need a true DC and then 3 position coaches. We have 2 DCs and 1 position coach (where all they do is coach a position).
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