re: Why is there so much hate for Alleva?

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If he had kept up his tradition of losing at least 3 games 4 out of 5 years he wouldve been fired.

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PLEASE get Miles package out of your mouth,,,


OK Saban SUCKED while he was here.. He did NOTHING for the program... Miles did EVERYTHING... Saban left him NOTHING to work with...


OK dipshit........

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PLEASE get Miles package out of your mouth,,,

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Im sorry you dont like facts about Saban's tenure.

2000- 4 losses
2001- 3losses
2002- 5 losses
2003- 1 loss
2004- 3 losses

The above numbers are facts.

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OK Saban SUCKED while he was here..

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Never said that. I merely said that if Saban had kept losing 3 games or more 4 out of 5 years hed have been fired.

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He did NOTHING for the program...

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Never said that.

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Miles did EVERYTHING

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Never said that.

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Saban left him NOTHING to work with...

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Never said that.

It amazing how the statement," lsu wasnt a top 5 program in january 2005" in your mind turns into "Saban sucked and left miles with nothing".

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No one here is saying firing Miles was a mistake.


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While I wouldn't call it a mistake, I don't think you can make a determination on that until we see what his successor can do.

People who think Orgeron rode in on a magic unicorn and saved the season last year are sorely mistaken. He did a good job in all but two games, but the fact of the matter is if Miles isn't fired we still finish 8-4, maybe 9-3 if we beat Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl.

Les wouldn't have lost the Florida game, and let's not pretend that last year's Arkansas and Ole Miss teams were nearly as good as they were in 2015.

Missouri had a terrible defense. LSU under Miles would have put up the same numbers against them (see the Texas Tech game if you doubt this).

The Wisconsin loss was one bad decision by the QB away from being a win. The Auburn game was a win. If you have to cheat to win, you don't really win and Auburn's clock operators cheated the frick out of us on that final drive by letting it run on first downs before the ball was spotted and runs OOB.

Despite being robbed of 40 seconds, we were still only 3 tenths of a second away from officially getting the win.

If the SEC wasn't ridiculously biased toward the Alabama schools and Florida, Auburn would have had to vacate that win (or the outcome changed after review of the game film showed that there should have been 40 seconds on the clock when time expired), and Florida would have to vacate it's 2015 win against Tennessee for pulling the same stunt.

So if Auburn doesn't cheat and Etling wasn't injured for the season opener, we're 4-0 after four games and Les's seat isn't scorching hot.

Suppose Auburn had integrity and Etling had been available for the Wisconsin game and we won both, I don't see us losing another game except perhaps Alabama, but we'd have been in the playoffs win or lose that game.

If Orgeron goes 7-6 next year and 8-5 the following year, I would contend that firing Miles was indeed a mistake. Alleva should have had Miles' replacement locked up before pulling the trigger. Having to settle for a DL coach with no career success as a HC may or may not turn out to have been an improvement over Miles. We won't know until this coming fall at the very earliest.

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I didn't say he wasn't

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I know.

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Rather, I pointed out that using emojis to ridicule someone you disagree with is neither mature nor intellectual, and doesn't even attempt to put forth an argument articulating why you disagree and why you think you're right and the other person wrong.

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agreed.

FWIW, I'm taking a lot of shite in the Pocic thread for defending you. You must be strongly disliked by some one here.

I don't care. You're usually right and don't conform to the majority opinion if you think it's wrong, articulate your points and do so intelligently. I wish more posters here were like that.

We beat MSU by 4 points this year at home. Arkansas was not a given with Miles in any year. Ole Miss would have given him a game.

You're revising history on Miles. With the way we were playing at the time, the Missouri game wasn't a given.

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Arkansas was not a given with Miles in any year.

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bullshite. Miles didnt lose to teams that couldnt stop the run.
Arky gave up over 200 ypg rushing this year.

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Ole Miss would have given him a game.

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bullshite. Miles didnt lose to teams that couldnt stop the run. Ole miss gave up 247 rushing yards per game tis year and was 117th in opponents rushing yards per game.

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You're revising history on Miles.

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No your proving your lack of football knowldge by saying miles had 1 good year. Youre the type of football fan that thinks winning 9 games every year is easy without knowing that from 2009- 2013 only 4 programs were able to win 9 games every year and lsu was one of them.
Miles has the 7th best win % in the entire history of the sec and you said he had 1 great season.
During miles tenure only 2 p5 programs had more wins.
During his tenure no program beat more ranked teams.
During his tenure no program was ranked in the top 25 nore weeks.

For you to sit here and blast miles tenure while talking up the hiring of a coach that has never ran a successful offense, defense , or program just further lets posters know what your knowldge consists of.
Miles was justly fired and it was time for a new voice but to sit here and say he had 1 good season is just ignorant. He has the most successful tenure in lsu history and one of the most successful tenures in SEC HISTORY. Educate yourself instead of regurgitating bullshite rant posts you read on here.

He's saying we would have beaten Arkansas, Ole Miss, UF, and everyone else on our schedule with Miles as head coach. That's verifiable?

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He's saying we would have beaten Arkansas, Ole Miss, UF, and everyone else on our schedule with Miles as head coach. That's verifiable?

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Im saying its an opinion. Youre posting things as fact when theyre easily proven wrong. Its your opinion that miles wouldve lost those games. Its my opinion he wouldnt have given their inability to stop the run.
You kind of ruin your opinion when you say the best tenure in lsu history had just 1 good year.

The times we lost to ole miss and arky were mainly when they could stop the run.
Please let me on what orgeron actually did to gain those wins. He didnt run the offense,he didnt run the defense, he didnt choose the coordinators, he didnt choose the schemes. So what exactly did he do?

Is Baseball still on autopilot?