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re: Why do you people think Jon Gruden is the answer?
Posted on 10/5/10 at 8:58 pm to tiger94gop
Posted on 10/5/10 at 8:58 pm to tiger94gop
Gruden has made a career out of going 8-8. How long would that fly?
Gruden would be a step down. Most of you people are dumb.
Gruden would be a step down. Most of you people are dumb.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 8:59 pm to Rebel
ok my bad. Built them up to a super bowl caliber team, then beat them in the Super Bowl
Posted on 10/5/10 at 9:00 pm to Rebel
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Gruden would be a step down. Most of you people are dumb.
You think Miles is a better coach than a man who won a Superbowl? Interesting.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 9:07 pm to The312
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You think Miles is a better coach than a man who won a Superbowl? Interesting.
LOL
Then why not hire Lovie Smith?
Posted on 10/5/10 at 9:12 pm to Bonjourno
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Gruden took Oakland to the Super Bowl
I think they lost to NEW ENGLAND in the AFC CHAMP GAME, snow: tuck rule bullshite wherein NE got the ball back after the Raiders recovered the fumble by Brady, and NE made the winning field goal.
The Raiders SHOULD have gone to the SUPER BOWL though.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 9:13 pm to emanresu
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I'd rather have a diamond in the rough kinda guy who is earning his way up in the college ranks. You know. Like when he-who-shall-not-be-named was hired in '99.
Agree. Everybody thinks an unemployed decent NFL coach with "fire" is the next Pete Carroll.
Posted on 10/6/10 at 9:13 am to mattz1122
It worked for Alabama. Just Sayin'.
Posted on 10/7/10 at 2:12 pm to Rebel
Shall we clear up some myths on this thread?
1- Nick Saban was not a "diamond in the rough" up-and-comer when LSU hired him. Gerry DiNardo was a diamond in the rough. Curly Hallman was up and coming. Saban was a candidate for NFL jobs before he even came to LSU (Bill Polian and the Colts, remember?). Granted, his best coaching accomplishments were ahead of him at the time, but he was established.
2- Jon Gruden won 5 division titles in 11 seasons as a head coach at two different teams, taking both teams as far as the conference title game. He didn't just "win with Dungy's players." Did he win in the first season after Dungy left? Yes, but Oakland won in the first season after Gruden left, so that's not much of an argument.
3 - Lovie Smith never won a Super Bowl as a head coach.
4 - Pete Carroll had been out of college coaching for 16 years when USC hired him. It worked out. This is not to say that Gruden would be the next Pete Carroll, but to point out that a prolonged absence from the college game does not prohibit success.
1- Nick Saban was not a "diamond in the rough" up-and-comer when LSU hired him. Gerry DiNardo was a diamond in the rough. Curly Hallman was up and coming. Saban was a candidate for NFL jobs before he even came to LSU (Bill Polian and the Colts, remember?). Granted, his best coaching accomplishments were ahead of him at the time, but he was established.
2- Jon Gruden won 5 division titles in 11 seasons as a head coach at two different teams, taking both teams as far as the conference title game. He didn't just "win with Dungy's players." Did he win in the first season after Dungy left? Yes, but Oakland won in the first season after Gruden left, so that's not much of an argument.
3 - Lovie Smith never won a Super Bowl as a head coach.
4 - Pete Carroll had been out of college coaching for 16 years when USC hired him. It worked out. This is not to say that Gruden would be the next Pete Carroll, but to point out that a prolonged absence from the college game does not prohibit success.
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