re: why crowton wasn't fired last year

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Antonio,you coach with what you have

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Sure, and ironically the vast majority under Crowton have been shite while playing for him, and then blow up when he leaves.

And I'm sure the fact that our receivers are never open in space, our plays are never disguised, our playcalling never makes sense, and our players have subpar technique is also the fault of the QBs.

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I know Crowton did an outstanding job at Tech.

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Different offense. He had a great passing game, but no balance. Their defenses got eaten alive because they were on the field the entire game.

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If fired,Crowton will have a good job next year.

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Maybe, maybe not.

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Why did he leave Oregon?

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Writing on the wall. What's happened at Oregon since he left? They've only become the consistently best offense in football.

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Meyer isn't doing much with 5 star Brantly

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Addazio is Florida's problem. If this continues for another two years, then it would be comparable to our situation. And what does this have to do with Crowton?

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The Crowton bashers seem to hold him to a higher standard than they do other OCs.

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Yes, god forbid I expect an OC with offensive talent in the Top 5 in all of college football to put a product on the field that ranks in the top 75%.

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Newton makes Auburn so explosive,not Malzan.

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No doubt that Newton is a force, but Malzahn uses his offensive players to scheme his offense, not the other way around. That's what good OC do. And Malzahn is light years better than Crowton. Malzahn has less talent at the other 10 positions on the field.

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I noticed you didn't respond to the rest of my post.

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Which part?

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How experienced was Dixon when he played for Crowton? Antonio,how much did you improve with experience?

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Dennis Dixon was junior while under Crowton and ranked #70 overall in QB efficiency.

In his senior year, after Crowton was gone, he ranked #3.

Yep, that one year of experience must have accounted for the 67 position jump.

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According to the all knowing recruiting sevices,Texas and OU dominate Big 12 recruiting.There is such a talent gap,they should never lose to other conference teams.

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Texas and OU have won the conference 8 out the last 10 years. In the two years other teams won, they beat either OU or Texas in the championship game.

Is there a point here?

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Same with USC.

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USC has won the Pac-10 8 out of the last ten years with the second highest rated recruiting school (Oregon) winning the other two.

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How is Shannnon at Miami ad Davis at Carolina working out?

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Miami and UNC don't have near the recruiting classes that LSU has had in the last decade.

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Notre Dame has top recruiting classes every yr but under achieves.

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That's a bit of stretch. Since 2002, these are their recruiting ranks:

2002 - #24
2003 - #12
2004 - #32
2005 - #40
2006 - #8
2007 - #8
2008 - #2
2009 - #21
2010 - #14

They had a three year period where they recruited very well. This talent never materialized and what happened? They fired their coach.

Are you arguing that we should fire coaches?

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There is very little difference in talent in the SEC.You guys bash Miles and Crowton for the same things you excuse in other coaches.

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I bash Crowton for having an offense that ranks in the bottom 25% in all of college football. It's justified.

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Did ya'lls coaches lose every game or was it something the players failed to execute?
Hell,if all it took was coaching,you mouthiy critics could play.

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Of course it takes players, but its apparent to anyone who watched football other than LSU games that our biggest problem is offensive scheme/playcalling.

Antonio moss eviscerates people in regards to crowton and the qb position. It's fun to watch really.

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Sure, and ironically the vast majority under Crowton have been shite while playing for him, and then blow up when he leaves.

And I'm sure the fact that our receivers are never open in space, our plays are never disguised, our playcalling never makes sense, and our players have subpar technique is also the fault of the QBs.

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The receivers drop too many catchable passes.

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Writing on the wall. What's happened at Oregon since he left? They've only become the consistently best offense in football.

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In a conference wth no defense. Boise and Ohio State shut them down last yr. Name one good defense they have faced.Once again,why did Crowton leave Oregon?
Would JJ do better at Oregon than Thomas? Tampa Two Kiffen's defense is being lit up by every team.Has Oregon played a top 30 defense this year?

Back in your day,was it always the coaches fault hen you lost? Shep and TT drop half the balls thrown to them.
Auburn simply dominated the LSU OL.Malzan has run the same offense since hs.
Speaking of Mullen,he hasn't done much with State's offense.
I'm going to let the season run it's course. If QBs have time to throw and can actually hit their receivers,LSU will do fine.

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and you have a talent evaluation problem!

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So why does our offense still fail to produce under Lee?

Why did Oregon's fall off the map at the end of 2006 with Dixon?

Why was BYU's arguable the worst in college football under John Beck?


Maybe Jefferson really is the worst QB in the history of LSU. But recent history teaches us that Crowton is the more likely culprit.

I know Crowton may be a shitty OC, I still think he is handcuffed by Les has to what he can do, but Jefferson just doesn't have it , you can see that now, if RR was coaching down there Jefferson would be on the bench and Shepard would be QB!

Jefferson hesitates when he runs which is no comparison to Dixon who just flat out ran, and when he tries to throw(Jefferson that is) he holds the ball too damn long, and can't make fast decisions, he's just terrible, and it's been 3 years now, long enough to know if he has it or not!

yeah we'll see.

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it is apparant to anyone watching college football other than LSU that our biggest problem is offense scheme/playcalling

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i couldn't disagree more. oh sure, there could be some improvements but our problem is PLAY EXECUTION. not saying that's not largely crowton and his offense coaching staff, but our offense cannot block and they seem to be confused a lot. our QB's have a bare minimum time to survey the field and fire a pass and often the pass is poor or the WR drops it. a play works if it's executed properly. it really is that simple. deceiving the defense is way overrated. yes, on some plays, fooling the defense results in a big gain. but over the course of an entire game, if the OL and the perimeter blockers do their job, there will be holes and enough holes to get sustained drives. if the WR's run the correct routes and the OL holds their blocks long enough and blitzes are picked up, a reasonably effecient pass game will result provided the pass is accurate and the WR catches it. i watch a lot of college football and it is apparant to me we have a poor coached offense; poorly coached in the fundamentals of the game. our offense is ripe for a good solid coordinator with a good solid OL and WR coach to come in and make a huge difference. if at least 3 coaches aren't fired or reassigned after this season, miles has lost me.

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A viscous, viscous cycle.

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Try "VICIOUS CIRCLE".