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re: what's Crowton/Miles's leash on JJ?

Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:29 am to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:29 am to
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Flynn and JR have done this with much more experience than JJ has, so it's not out of the question.


true.

but from the limited time JJ has had playing/starting, he doesn't make me hold my breath when he drops back to throw.

he seems to be quite careful with the ball for the most part.
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:29 am to
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the guy had trouble reading Auburn's coverage scheme


his reads were fine, but he did miss some throws

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I thought a change at QB would have caught them off guard


yeah if Flynn were put in to do some running. I actually wanted Jimbo to give that a shot at times in 06 til we arrived at the KW/ Hester combo
Posted by Sammich
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:30 am to
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I'm all for him playing play more than 1/4 of the offensive snaps if he's as good as advertised, just not as a QB. there are other ways to get the ball in his hands.


Shepard has been compared favorably to both Vince Young & Terrelle Pryor.
Posted by BT
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:31 am to


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Shepard has been compared favorably to both Vince Young & Terrelle Pryor.

other than he's about 20 lbs lighter and a foot shorter.. but yeah he has poor throwing mech(which can be fixed) and he likes to run and he's black... so yeah he's comparable.
This post was edited on 6/29/09 at 11:33 am
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:32 am to
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other than he's about 20 lbs lighter and a foot shorter.. but yeah he has poor throwing mech(which can be fixed) and he likes to run and he's black... so yeah he's comparable.


Posted by BT
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:33 am to
which of those is not true.?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:33 am to
shep is a FOOT shorter than vince young and pryor?
Posted by BT
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:34 am to
ok 6 inches my bad.
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:37 am to
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what evidence leads you to believe Flynn would have been better?
see that is a misconception because I am not sayin Flynn would have been better, just that they were prepared for JR and not Flynn, no 2 QB's are the same, in this case def not.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:37 am to
is 56% passing good enough to win games with?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:37 am to
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just that they were prepared for JR and not Flynn,


+10000000

it would have potentially thrown them off.
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:42 am to
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yeah if Flynn were put in to do some running. I actually wanted Jimbo to give that a shot at times in 06 til we arrived at the KW/Hester combo.
now your reading my mind because his running def paid dividends the year before against Miami, Auburn was prepared for Russell, but not him is all I'm sayin.
This post was edited on 6/29/09 at 11:44 am
Posted by BT
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:42 am to
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is 56% passing good enough to win games with?

yes

FWIW.. JL was at 53% on 270 attempts
JJ 49% with 73 attempts.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:43 am to
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FWIW


fwiw, how many games did lee get to play, and how many did jefferson get to play?
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:47 am to
yeah, but we will never know about 06, but if you have great athlete's like Shep, I agree with you, they should be used in any capacity.
This post was edited on 6/29/09 at 11:47 am
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:49 am to
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yeah, but we will never know about 06


sad, but true.

I wish flynn could have got his shot. but oh well...

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but if you have great athlete's like Shep, I agree with you, they should be used in any capacity.


+1

he needs to have the ball in his hands at least 5 times a game or more.
Posted by BT
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:49 am to
how does games played equate to pass completion percentage.??..
JL roughly played in 3 times more games than JJ did last year... oddly enough he attempted 3 times as many throws.
Point is in like caliber PT, percentage wise they threw basically same amount of passes.
JL was at 53%.
JJ was at 49%.
I didnt make those up doc, if you like google it and see for yourslef.
Im no saying that is a huge difference and sure there are other factors that could be thrown in to aruge either guys point.
But thats pretty cut and dry right there.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:52 am to
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But thats pretty cut and dry right there.


lee - 8 games
jeff - 3 games
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:56 am to
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But I have a major problem w/ the fans who have berated Jarrett Lee and treated him worse than any LSU player in recent memory.
+1
Posted by Sammich
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 11:57 am to
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other than he's about 20 lbs lighter and a foot shorter.. but yeah he has poor throwing mech(which can be fixed) and he likes to run and he's black... so yeah he's comparable.


Oh & would beat the living hell out of either one of them in a footrace. All 3 were Elite 11 QBs. Of course I expect you to be gone when JL leaves, as you have no respect for yourself or LSU.
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