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re: Ways to Stop or Contain the "Zone Read".....
Posted on 10/22/10 at 1:56 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 10/22/10 at 1:56 pm to Antonio Moss
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Were these the same coaches that taught you
I like how you try and put words in to people mouths...you mean the 4-2-5 defense that I schooled you on....and im guessing your still pissed about being wrong about your boy
JJ at QB....(that I schooled you on over and over and over again)
Posted on 10/22/10 at 2:06 pm to TigerFan55555
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you mean the 4-2-5 defense that I schooled you on
You can't be serious. You argued for five pages that "bump-n-run" was defensive scheme instead of a type of coverage.
You have no clue when it comes to X's and O's.
And pressuring from the outside against Auburn is a really, really bad idea. The last thing we want for Newton to break contain. You stop the zone read by having your DEs stay at home and not overpursue the RB.
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bump and run is where the 4 down lineman pinch the middle and the backers take the edge...it looks like 4 down lineman but its really six b/c the backers look run first!
LINK
This post was edited on 10/22/10 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 10/22/10 at 2:13 pm to Antonio Moss
old school football.........don't let them break contain....i agree with antonio 
Posted on 10/22/10 at 2:18 pm to Antonio Moss
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Antonio Moss
Im sorry Mr. Greatest football mind ever...
1. you were wrong about JJ (you thought he was good and that he would progress)
2. you were wrong about JL (you thought he was bad and wouldnt progress)
3. I argued that Bump and Run was a defensive "CALL!!!!!!"
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Antonio Moss has no clue when it comes to X's and O's.
your right on there...
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And pressuring from the outside against Auburn is a really, really bad idea. The last thing we want for Newton to break contain. You stop the zone read by having your DEs stay at home and not overpursue the RB.
and where in my OP did I say the DE's have to crash in...???...I said 1 of the 4 defensive backs jackass...
idiot...you make up wrong shite, try and put it on someone else then try and correct it...your full of it dude.....
Posted on 10/22/10 at 2:20 pm to Antonio Moss
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Were these the same coaches that taught you the 6-0-5 Bump and Run defense?
Posted on 10/22/10 at 2:21 pm to archercurley
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old school football.........don't let them break contain
Ok, again, where did I say the DE's crash in...please tell me...
Posted on 10/22/10 at 2:26 pm to TigerFan55555
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1. you were wrong about JJ (you thought he was good and that he would progress)
I said, based on everything we had seen up to that point, he was clearly our best option. I never imagined he would regress to this point. Lee needs to play the vast majority snaps.
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2. you were wrong about JL (you thought he was bad and wouldnt progress)
You will never be able to back this up. I have never said Lee was "bad" or "wouldn't progress." I said that based on what we knew prior to the season, Jefferson was our best option.
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3. I argued that Bump and Run was a defensive "CALL!!!!!!"
This is what you said, I'm copying it straight from your post:
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bump and run is where the 4 down lineman pinch the middle and the backers take the edge...it looks like 4 down lineman but its really six b/c the backers look run first!
You're embarrassing yourself.
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and where in my OP did I say the DE's have to crash in...???
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3 of them were telling me that LSU was going to stop the zone read because we have the ability and speed to blow it up in the back field...they said that you dont do that by going up the middle with LB's...they stay at home
So we have to blow it up in the backfield, but the DTs and the LBs need to stay at home? Are you suggesting we call a corner blitz on every down?
Here's the deal. I seriously doubt anyone every told you this. Furthermore, I seriously doubt that you know anyone who coaches football.
The zone read is effective when DEs and OLBs overpurse. High schools coaches understand this.
Posted on 10/22/10 at 2:38 pm to Antonio Moss
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I said, based on everything we had seen up to that point, he was clearly our best option.
and you were wrong....I said that he was never good, I was right....your a shitty judge of talent...
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This is what you said, I'm copying it straight from your post:
no go to the same thread and find where I said it was a "Call"
oops, im sorry, i found it... Page 4
dip shite...I said it was a "call"
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You're embarrassing yourself.
when you consistently said it was the olines fault that JJ was sacked 40 times last year...
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and where in my OP did I say the DE's have to crash in...???
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3 of them were telling me that LSU was going to stop the zone read because we have the ability and speed to blow it up in the back field...they said that you dont do that by going up the middle with LB's...they stay at home
again, where did I say the DE's crash in...oooh thats right you can't find it. Thats because I never said it.
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they said that you dont do that by going up the middle with LB's.
where do you see DT's in that?
quote:you are so full of it dude...
Here's the deal
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The zone read is effective when DEs and OLBs overpurse. High schools coaches understand this.
and so do i...
quote:got schooled again...
Antonio Moss
This post was edited on 10/22/10 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 10/22/10 at 2:41 pm to TigerFan55555
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got schooled again...
Have you ever won an argument that wasn't a self-proclaimed victory?
Posted on 10/22/10 at 2:48 pm to TigerFan55555
Aren't you glad you don't have to make a defensive call tomorrow when it really matters..........me, I will go with the Chief
Posted on 10/22/10 at 2:52 pm to Antonio Moss
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Antonio Moss
have you ever manned up and admitted you were wrong?
Posted on 10/22/10 at 2:56 pm to TigerFan55555
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have you ever manned up and admitted you were wrong?
I've admitted many times that Lee needs to get 90% of the snaps, at least.
You just weren't paying attention. You were probably too busy learning the ins and outs of the constant corner blitz defense from your "coach" friends.
Posted on 10/22/10 at 3:08 pm to Antonio Moss
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Lee needs to get 90% of the snaps, at least.
ill buy 90%...as long as JJ doesnt get the other 10%....Those go to Shep running the zone read.
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You just weren't paying attention
I never do to you...
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You were probably too busy learning
something you should try...like learning how to judge talent...and what to look for...
Im out..headin home...
we'll fight again another day anton....till then be safe my friend...have a good weekend...
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