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re: The legacy of Lee and Les and how they're intertwined
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Yeah, those few "Lee played great" threads sure chapped your arse for the whole year, no doubt. You will probably need therapy to recover from his success this year.
This is stupid. And your constant efforts to label/frame me as something I'm not are fairly pathetic and tiring.
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"Most of the threads" on the first page at no point were about how awesome he was.
So basically this is your memory vs. mine and another poster's. Two unverifiable testimonies..
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You can bump the Lee is better than luck thread which would be amusing in it's own right.
Agreed. It was very amusing.
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:21 am to OBUDan
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Or the one he threw to Ford, who wasn't looking. Good thing there wasn't a LB there like in the MNC.
Yep, the fact there wasn't makes all the difference in the world. Your hateful obsession is incredible. You just can't back off of what you said, preseason and it's killing you....
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:22 am to OBUDan
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This is stupid. And your constant efforts to label/frame me as something I'm not are fairly pathetic and tiring.
You are exactly what you are, and it's pretty goddamn funny to be honest.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
Right...just like the other pass where he is claiming "I wonder what would have happened if there WAS time to throw"
As if he just assumes Lee is going to throw an INT
He made the best throw he could have made in that situation and gave our guy a chance to make a play on the ball
As if he just assumes Lee is going to throw an INT
He made the best throw he could have made in that situation and gave our guy a chance to make a play on the ball
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:23 am to Powerman
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Yeah it's called a back shoulder throw and it was right on the money you moron
The TD to Randle was a back shoulder to throw.
That throw to Boone was not. Watch it again. Boone is going full speed and then stops his route and comes back to adjust... evne Herbie comments on the fact that the pressure got to Lee and caused him to not get enough on the throw.
But it's funny that you think I'm a moron while stating your wrong opinion.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You are exactly what you are,
More mind-blowing philosophy from Rog.
You are so eloquent. You should write a book, my man. Seussian.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:24 am to OBUDan
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The TD to Randle was a back shoulder to throw.
That throw to Boone was not. Watch it again. Boone is going full speed and then stops his route and comes back to adjust... evne Herbie comments on the fact that the pressure got to Lee and caused him to not get enough on the throw.
But it's funny that you think I'm a moron while stating your wrong opinion.
It's not a bad throw
Many players intentionally "underthrow" the ball in that situation to give their guy a chance to come back and make a play on it
It was the best throw he could have made under those circumstances. Boone just didn't make a play on the ball.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:25 am to Powerman
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Right...just like the other pass where he is claiming "I wonder what would have happened if there WAS time to throw"
As if he just assumes Lee is going to throw an INT
I don't think I have ever seen such an obvious bias in my life on any message board than he has except for that WRT guy on the SEC rant who was an obvious troll.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:26 am to Powerman
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Right...just like the other pass where he is claiming "I wonder what would have happened if there WAS time to throw"
As if he just assumes Lee is going to throw an INT
No, you assume that's what I'm assuming.
There was a safety there. From the clip, it's hard to tell if he was in a good position. Boone had a step on his man, so if the safety was out of position, that would have been a huge TD pass.
If the safety was in position, it could have been knocked down, or, at worst, an INT.
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He made the best throw he could have made in that situation and gave our guy a chance to make a play on the ball
He got hit and threw the ball up.
You are overstating "the best throw he could have made."
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:29 am to OBUDan
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He got hit and threw the ball up.
Odd how it was right in his hands
Is Lee just lucky?
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:30 am to Powerman
what the hell are y'all arguing about? I need a video, screenshot, something.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't think I have ever seen such an obvious bias in my life on any message board
Why would I be biased against Lee?
I tend to be one of the more optimistic people on this board. I'm always very supportive of Les, probably to a fault.
I understand that you believe I am biased against Lee because I said he wasn't good in the pre-season (also have said this about JJ numerous times) and that I continue to stand by that opinion (have also said this numerous times). Additionally, I may have said something about "Lee won't do anything this season" or something like that. I admitted, in that same thread, that I had been wrong and Lee had been productive.
I wasn't here shitting on Lee all season and you can do a nice search of my post history if you'd like. I wasn't shitting on Lee after the Bama game.
I want LSU to be awesome. For this season, for LSU to be awesome, Lee needed to succeed. So why then, would I want him to suck? It makes zero sense.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:34 am to ATLTiger
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what the hell are y'all arguing about? I need a video, screenshot, something.
I posted a youtube video that has every pass from Lee in the Oregon game
Most were good with a few bad ones
Several key drops early in the game
What also gets lost in the stats is we drew a couple of PI calls that helped move the chains
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:35 am to OBUDan
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Why would I be biased against Lee?
Because you were so wed to your pre season claim that he was awful that you felt you needed to ardently defend it even in the face of conflicting information.
Pride is a bitch sometiems.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:36 am to Powerman
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Odd how it was right in his hands
Is Lee just lucky?
When you say things like this, it's as if you've never watched football before.
I mean, really? I assume you watch a lot of football since you start and comment on a diverse range of topics on the subject both here and the MSB.
You are telling me a QB has never just thrown the ball up and it hit the WRs hands?
I didn't even fault Lee for that entire play. THe pressure got to him, which caused for the throw to be underthrown. I don't see how I'm wrong in stating this. But if you want to see it as the best possible throw that could be in that situation, I guess kudos.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:37 am to OBUDan
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Why would I be biased against Lee?
Who the hell knows? If you don't believe you have a bias vs Lee, you will probably be in the 10% who don't believe you do. It's graphic and obvious. If you actually think you don't have some weird anti lee obsession, you have become delusional as well.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:40 am to OBUDan
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You are telling me a QB has never just thrown the ball up and it hit the WRs hands?
Well considering the length and width of the field I suppose you might have a weird definition of "throwing the ball up"
You throw the term out is if he might as well have his eyes closed and he's just chucking the ball up in the middle of the field and praying.
That's a lot different than throwing the ball up where your guy has a legit shot at catching it. The ball should have been caught.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:40 am to Powerman
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Because you were so wed to your pre season claim that he was awful that you felt you needed to ardently defend it even in the face of conflicting information.
Ok.
I clearly addressed that. And other than one little quote where I said, "The sooner people realize Lee isn't good the better" my general take was "Lee is not very good, but I hope he proves me wrong."
I presented the information in this thread and I don't see it as terribly conflicting. His numbers this year were nothing to rave about.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:42 am to OBUDan
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His numbers this year were nothing to rave about.
Right. Highest rated passer in the SEC
Nothing to get excited about considering that last year we had one of the worst passing offenses in all of college football.
You're doing a lot of mental gymnastics here to convince yourself you aren't stupid. Trust me: you are.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 11:42 am to Powerman
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I posted a youtube video that has every pass from Lee in the Oregon game
well post that bad boy again.
and don't mind Dan, he's a good poster. just had a tad of bias against JLee, I got his mind right earlier in the year.
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