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re: The following QB's had worse Efficiency ratings than JJ
Posted on 12/17/09 at 1:42 pm to TigerFan55555
Posted on 12/17/09 at 1:42 pm to TigerFan55555
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ole miss, he spiked the ball, took the sack when he shouldnt have, got lucky when a 6'5 reciever out leaped everyone...plus penalties and rushing kept the drive going..
you say you argue numbers, and facts but when they don't suit your agenda. you say he's lucky or the stats are bogus gtfo of here.
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Posted on 12/17/09 at 1:49 pm to Sammobile
so your saying we weren't lucky win the blue grass miracle happened? or any hail mary being caught?? are you serious? listen to yourself!!! you just said its not luck when someone catches a HAIL MARY!!! what do you think its named for?!! You have to pray that it works!!! Jesus Christ!! At least I can say the kid looks good when he's earned it...LIKE AUBURN!!!
now do you see why It would be a rational thought to believe race is involved???
now do you see why It would be a rational thought to believe race is involved???
This post was edited on 12/17/09 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 12/17/09 at 1:52 pm to TigerFan55555
The point is he led us down the field at the end of games against Georgia, Ole Miss, and Arky. He was playing well against Bama before he got hurt, and then the backup screwed it up.
No, he's not perfect. But there are a hell of a lot worse players on this team than Jefferson. When you combine talent and intangibles, he is clearly one of the 10 best players on this team.
I realize some people aren't smart enough to comment on any players besides the QB, but it's pretty clear that with a competent running game, OL, and playcaller; Jefferson is certainly good enough to win with.
No, he's not perfect. But there are a hell of a lot worse players on this team than Jefferson. When you combine talent and intangibles, he is clearly one of the 10 best players on this team.
I realize some people aren't smart enough to comment on any players besides the QB, but it's pretty clear that with a competent running game, OL, and playcaller; Jefferson is certainly good enough to win with.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 1:58 pm to ColtsTigers
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he led us down the field at the end of games against Georgia
I believe you can thank the ref for the US penalty and Chuck for the rest of that one...
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Ole Miss, and Arky
please read above...
quote:hmmmmm....id say he was hanging in there...not bad, but not great...you could tell, the whole team was just trying to hang on...sometimes you need a leader to push you over the top...I'm saying JJ wont be that guy...again...I hope im wrong...
He was playing well against Bama before he got hurt, and then the backup screwed it up.
quote:I agree..
But there are a hell of a lot worse players on this team than Jefferson
quote:anyone would be with a great Defense, signed Trent Dilfer
Jefferson is certainly good enough to win with.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 1:59 pm to ColtsTigers
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he led us down the field at the end of games against Georgia
I believe you can thank the ref for the US penalty and Chuck for the rest of that one...
quote:
Ole Miss, and Arky
please read above...
quote:hmmmmm....id say he was hanging in there...not bad, but not great...you could tell, the whole team was just trying to hang on...sometimes you need a leader to push you over the top...I'm saying JJ wont be that guy...again...I hope im wrong...
He was playing well against Bama before he got hurt, and then the backup screwed it up.
quote:I agree..
But there are a hell of a lot worse players on this team than Jefferson
quote:anyone would be with a great Defense, signed Trent Dilfer
Jefferson is certainly good enough to win with.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:00 pm to TigerFan55555
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What about Florida? go right ahead...im waiting for the play calling (which I admit has sucked all year) o-line's fault, RB's fault, everyone but JJ
The o-line was dog shite in the Florida game. Although it was JJ's worst game, by far, as a Tiger. BTW, you just pea-cocked about JJ not doing so well against the #1 defense in the country.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:00 pm to TigerFan55555
sorry computer locked up...didnt mean to double post..
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:02 pm to TigerFan55555
so you're telling me that pocket awareness doesn't increase with exp. ha ha i knew you didn"t know shite
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:04 pm to TigerFan55555
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I believe you can thank the ref for the US penalty and Chuck for the rest of that one...
The drive before that put us in the lead. Then the defense lost it. You don't have much of a memory, apparently.
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please read above...
Again, you forgot the drive before that against Ole Miss that put us in that position.
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hmmmmm....id say he was hanging in there...not bad, but not great...you could tell, the whole team was just trying to hang on...sometimes you need a leader to push you over the top...I'm saying JJ wont be that guy...again...I hope im wrong...
Actually, if Charles Scott doesn't drop a wideopen ball off of a Jefferson scramble, he would have been having a great game. Our passing game was doing well, on the plays that Hitt wasn't getting dominated by their DTs.
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anyone would be with a great Defense, signed Trent Dilfer
This is college football. The teams that win at this level have the best defenses, running games, and coaching. There are no Drew Brees or Peyton Mannings at this level.
Once people start realizing this and stop expecting to find a QB that can make up for a shitty OL, running game, and coaching staff; then the Rant won't be so stupid anymore.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:06 pm to TigerFan55555
how did he not lead us down the field, with the game on the line, against ole miss, georgia, arkansas, and was moving the ball against bama. All that with no run game and no o line
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:06 pm to MightyYat
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you just pea-cocked about JJ not doing so well against the #1 defense in the country.
no, i didnt, the same one that Bama killed? the same one that that should have been offset b/c of our skilled players...yet we dont have a QB to get the ball to them?...kinda my point...ill give you the o-line...for 1/2 of it...they other half, I put on JJ...(well, not on him, im sure he WANTED to do well, he just COULDN'T)....just wanted you to know i wasnt attacking his Character...
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:09 pm to TigerFan55555
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no, i didnt, the same one that Bama killed? the same one that that should have been offset b/c of our skilled players...yet we dont have a QB to get the ball to them?...kinda my point...ill give you the o-line...for 1/2 of it...they other half, I put on JJ...(well, not on him, im sure he WANTED to do well, he just COULDN'T)....just wanted you to know i wasnt attacking his Character...
What does Bama have that we don't have? (hint: It's not McElroy)
The have a dominant o-line and running game. Piss poor example.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:09 pm to MightyYat
you are a dumb arse. When we say he led us down the field against uga it was the drive before charles scott had the run. Jj led us all the way down the field from our 20 and shouldve been the game winning score. Uga scored like 3 plays later with 1 min left
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:13 pm to TigerFan55555
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no, i didnt, the same one that Bama killed? the same one that that should have been offset b/c of our skilled players...yet we dont have a QB to get the ball to them?...kinda my point...ill give you the o-line...for 1/2 of it...they other half, I put on JJ...(well, not on him, im sure he WANTED to do well, he just COULDN'T)....just wanted you to know i wasnt attacking his Character...
Bama killed them bc their OL dominated Florida's DL, and knocked them off the ball in the running game. LSU tried to do the same bc they knew Florida's weakness was their DTs, but instead our OL got dominated.
Bama didn't put the game on their QB, they put it on their OL and RBs. Florida has the best secondary in the country, so why would you put it on the QB?
You can't possibly be so stupid.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:15 pm to ColtsTigers
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The drive before that put us in the lead. Then the defense lost it.
didnt know we were talking about 3rd quarter drives...so, technically I could bring in all the JL lovers and they could talk about all of his drives last year...
quote:didnt know we were talking about 3rd quarter drives...so, technically I could bring in all the JL lovers and they could talk about all of his drives last year...
Again, you forgot the drive before that against Ole Miss that put us in that position.
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Actually, if Charles Scott doesn't drop a wideopen ball off of a Jefferson scramble, he would have been having a great game. Our passing game was doing well, on the plays that Hitt wasn't getting dominated by their DTs.
do you really want to go there? how many sacks did he take? how many cruicial 3rd downs did we make??? 3rd downs b/c of penalties?[
quote]This is college football. The teams that win at this level have the best defenses, running games, and coaching. There are no Drew Brees or Peyton Mannings at this level. [/quote]
hmmm....sounds a lot like the NFL too...and you could (i believe) (think about this before you react) you could compare a Danny Weurfel to college like Manning is to the NFL...get my point? There are QB's like that everywhere every year...Thats how those guys get their names...they do good things in the clutch consistantly, not always but consistantly.
However, I will give you the Georgia game where PP was out with Cramps...
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:16 pm to PRIDGENTIGER
tiger55555, you are blind if you can't se that jj is a good qb. You really have some vendetta against him. He has the same stats as matt flynn. Also if you wanna say stats don't tell the whole story, he went 9 and 3 in the hardest division in the hardest conference while having no running game( you set up the pass with the run, not the other way), horrible playcalling and an inept o line. At 19. Sorry he is good and you sound like a dumbass. U really do
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:19 pm to MightyYat
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What does Bama have that we don't have?
you mean the o-line that has 3 new starters?
what did scott do last year? 1000 yard rusher, what did Ingram do last year bout same maybe a little less? So by that logic (the same that your trying to put on me about JJ progressing) Scott should have dominated all year... just because of what happened last year...
I agree with you about the play calling...and coaching...
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:25 pm to PRIDGENTIGER
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He has the same stats as matt flynn.
OMG...lets bust the numbers out again...read the last 4 pages, then come back to me...
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he went 9 and 3
HE didnt do that damn much...you should be thanking Chavis and PP for that bro...
quote:so you tell me what do you do next when you step on the field and put they 8 men in the box IMMEDIATELY! ARE YOU GONNA GO ANYWHERE! NO !!!IDIOT!! thats what they did all fricking year!!! they made our offense throw the fricking ball because we COULDNT run against 8 men in the boX!!! Hence, putting pressure on a QB and DEFENSE to win the fricking game...GO HOME!!!
you set up the pass with the run, not the other way
This post was edited on 12/17/09 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:26 pm to TigerFan55555
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didnt know we were talking about 3rd quarter drives...so, technically I could bring in all the JL lovers and they could talk about all of his drives last year...
Umm, there was about 3 minutes left in the game. Do you have a clue what you're talking about?
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do you really want to go there? how many sacks did he take? how many cruicial 3rd downs did we make??? 3rd downs b/c of penalties?
Watch the game. Any sacks that Jefferson or Lee took in that game was bc Hitt was getting annihilated by Dareus and their other DTs. You can't possibly be so stupid.
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hmmm....sounds a lot like the NFL too...and you could (i believe) (think about this before you react) you could compare a Danny Weurfel to college like Manning is to the NFL...get my point? There are QB's like that everywhere every year...Thats how those guys get their names...they do good things in the clutch consistantly, not always but consistantly.
Umm, no, it doesn't. The teams that win in the NFL have Brees, Manning, Favre, Rivers, Warner, etc at QB. It's a QB league right now, if you haven't noticed.
The teams that win in college have Saban, Meyer, Brian Kelly, Gary Patterson, etc coaching them. They run the ball, play stifling defense, and outscheme their opponents.
There is a reason that NFL teams don't like Tebow at QB, they see that his release is longer than even Jefferson's, and that he doesn't pass that well. They see that he's a product of Meyer's system, just like Alex Smith was. They see that much of their offense comes bc they outscheme people.
Not much different than Wuerffel under Spurrier.
Get a clue. Lord.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:27 pm to TigerFan55555
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HE didnt do that damn much...you should be thanking Chavis and PP for that bro...
If it wasn't for 3rd and Chavis we'd be 10-2 right now with a win over Ole Miss. Our defense go abused that game.
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