re: Story I heard from former LSU player about the Miles -> Crowton relationship.

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limits the effectiveness of our speed and allows the defense to use the sideline as an extra defender.

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Seems the longer you run horizontal, the more time DBs have to react and close on the LOS.
I don't recall many successful wide side option plays that take it all the way to sideline.
Some sweeps with option induced misdirection turn the corner at sideline, but they're sell outs and not reading emol.

Yeah Crowton doesn't have a history of undeveloping qb's and his offenses tanking on a gradual decline.

Thanks for standing out as another person to not take serious when discussing football, diehardfan.

Funny how all the Miles haters always latch on to every negative statement and believe it as fact. Morons like diehardfan are embarrassing to the lsu fanbase.

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Hopefully anyone who uses the phrase "sunshine pumper" isn't older than 14. I'm guessing you are 12.

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Standard operating procedure for ya.

You'll fit in good with them.

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Seriously, you actually used the phrase "sunshine pumper". I'm embarrased for you. Not as embarrassing as your lack of football knowledge though.

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This is what your dealing with in the diehardfan brand negatiger:

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Sweet Mother of God!!!! They want him!!!!

Thank you, Lord! Thank you, Jesus!!!!

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Unfortunately the truth is a BIIIIIITCH and people around here don't like it so they deny it and attack anyone who speaks it. What you heard is correct. Why would JJ and Lee have an advantage over Mett for being in THE system for the past 3 years if the system were changing with the hiring of a new OC? You would think the OC would get to bring in his own system. Right? Wrong. Krags is a puppet. The system isn't changing. The offense isn't changing. The Sunshine Pumpers want everyone to think Crowton was the BIG problem and that the problem is gone now. Bottom line: Miles IS the problem with the offense and it aint changing. Crowton was a scapegoat and the Sunshine Pumpers bought it hook, line and sinker. Flame away bitches!!!!

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Let me explain why I think this will be a bad hire.

Crowton runs a version of the spread offense. When he gets a new job, his first year has been great. Let the stats explain.
Chicago Bears

1999: Bears record was 6-10. Their offense scored 272 points (17/game), 7th worst in the NFL. 31 TDs, 7th worst in NFL (source). Leading passer: Shane Matthews

2000: Bears record was 5-11. Their offense scored 214 points (13.4/game), 4th worst in the NFL. 22 TDs, 3rd worst in the NFL (source). (The thing that you want to do from an offensive standpoint is you want to score points.) Leading passer: Cade McNown

It’s safe to say that he didn’t have the greatest quarterbacks to run his offense. Get this though. In 2001, the Bears went 13-3 with Jim Miller as the quarterback. They scored 338 points (21.1/game), good enough for 11th in the NFL.

BYU

2001: BYU went 12-2. They scored an amazing 608 points (46.8/game). Luke Staley was the leading rusher in the nation. However they got killed in their last two games. Everybody loved Crowton as head coach. What a great season! But it was a terrible watching them get killed by Hawaii and Louisville. Coincidentally, Luke Staley was injured in the two games BYU lost.

2002: Their record was 5-7. BYU’s first losing season in 30 years. They scored 272 points (22.7/game).

2003: BYU went 4-8. They scored 196 points (16.3/game). They didn’t score a point in the game versus Utah, the first time they went scoreless in a game in my lifetime.

2004: BYU went 5-6. They 267 points (24.3/game).

BYU went from scoring 608 points in 2001 to a low of 196 points in 2003! This was against average teams in the Mountain West Conference. He was the head coach and offensive coordinator at BYU.

Oregon

2005: Oregon went 10-2. They scored 414 points (34.5/game).

2006: Oregon went 7-6, losing their last 4. They scored 383 points (29.5/game).

There you have it. The only year he improved upon his previous year while at the same program was 2004. BYU couldn’t have gotten any worse after a terrible year in 2003.

The truth is Gary Crowton has a good offense. But smart teams are going to figure it out. Guess who was coaching Utah when BYU went scoreless in 2003-Urban Meyer. Most of the coaches in the SEC are almost as smart as Urban and they will shut down LSU’s offense. LSU has great athletes and he will find a way to make them look bad.

The Las Vegas Bowl was a great game this year. For most fans, I am sure it was a boring game. BYU almost shut out Oregon and won the game 38-8. Watching Oregon play brought back bitter memories of when Crowton was at BYU. They looked clueless out there. BYU’s secondary was injured. They didn’t have most of their best players playing because of injuries. Crowton failed to take advantage of his highly athletic receivers. Instead he was worrying about which quarterback to play on which down.

Be ready for an undisciplined offense that fails to make any adjustments-during the game or season.

LSU will probably have a great year with their athletes. They will score a lot of points. But don’t expect them to stay that way. Not with Crowton as the offensive coordinator. The numbers don’t lie.

Don't post logic and facts. Football illiterate morons like diehardfan do not understand what that is.

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Here is some logic and facts that you can't seem to dispute:

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Miles is the winningest coach in LSU Football history.

You are whining, bitching & moaning...because?

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Miles is the winningest coach in LSU Football history.

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Depends on how you define "winningest".

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Why would JJ and Lee have an advantage over Mett for being in THE system for the past 3 years if the system were changing with the hiring of a new OC? You would think the OC would get to bring in his own system. Right? Wrong. Same system.

Dispute that.

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Will you sulk away if proven wrong.

JJ and JL have the advantage for two reasons.

1.) Kragthorpe said that he would keep all the same terminology...although the offense would be different they would use the same calls. Further went on to say that he had done it both ways...change the offense and change calls...or change the offense and leave the calls intact for the first year.

2.) JJ and JL have 3 and 4 years of opponent film study versus 0, they are way ahead of ZM in terms of recognition and reaction. Just the way it is. It has nothing with what we are doing, it has to do with reading what is available.