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Posted on 7/7/10 at 12:45 pm to King Joey
What does Les Miles bring to the table that the good/great coaches don't?
Posted on 7/7/10 at 12:49 pm to tubucoco
quote:Flynn called a play that wasn't in the playbook? he drew up that pass to d Byrd in the dirt?
Just like Flynn pulled that play out of his arse at the last second.
you want to crucify miles for alem kicking a ball but give saban a pass for booty calling a nonexistent play to lose to UAB? tha frick kindof dumbass logic is that?
This post was edited on 7/7/10 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 7/7/10 at 12:52 pm to drexyl
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Flynn called a play that wasn't in te playbook? he drew up that pass to d Byrd in the dirt?
JR overruled the coaches in 2006 on the last play against Ole Miss. He had Miles' trust to do so (supposedly)
A big difference between the Booty/Alem thing is the fact that Saban had barely been coaching at LSU when it happened.
This post was edited on 7/7/10 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 7/7/10 at 12:56 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:well of course saban is blameless because ........ well because.
A big difference between the Booty/Alem thing is the fact that Saban had barely been coaching at LSU when it happened.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 12:57 pm to drexyl
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well of course saban is blameless because ........ well because.
And what became of Booty after that?????
Posted on 7/7/10 at 1:05 pm to dukke v
quote:injured rib. started every game after the Florida game until 2nd half of the peach bowl. why?
Posted by dukke v
quote:
well of course saban is blameless because ........ well because.
And what became of Booty after that?????
Posted on 7/7/10 at 1:05 pm to tubucoco
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it's not a theory, it's called being in control of your players, a point a lot of you asses are overlooking, you think Alem does something like that with Saban as HC?
I think Alem would have done that no matter who the coach was. A coach can keep a tight reign on his team but they can't control everything....and yes, that even means a player's frustration level and acting out in some fashion.
Based on your take of this, we can say that Saban doesn't have a tight reign on his players at Bama then...specifically during the game last year when Julio Jones did something so outlandishly stupid as getting a 12 men on the field penalty.
Where was your so-called "control" then?
Wow! What was he thinking? Where was Saban's tight-fisted control at that point? Maybe his coaching tactic and "coaching his players up" is to show his displeasure of the situation by throwing his headset to the ground.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 1:10 pm to drexyl
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well of course saban is blameless because ........ well because.
you don't think the fact that booty wasn't a saban player and hadn't been coached long under Saban effects the situation at all?
or would you rather create another fallacious statement like an 8 year old school boy instead of addressing the point?
Posted on 7/7/10 at 1:23 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:is the head coach no longer accountable for the actions of his players? had saban not made it clear that making up your own plays in the middle of a game is a huge no-no? since Tyson Jackson was a saban recruit does that absolve miles of any responsibility for his karate chop against UK in 2007?
you don't think the fact that booty wasn't a saban player and hadn't been coached long under Saban effects the situation at all?
hilarious to watch you and everyone else scramble to forgive saban for allowing a culture to exist in his program that let a player believe it is ok to make up a play on the fly en route to a loss to UAB.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 1:39 pm to drexyl
What selective memory some of these guys have. And whats even more amazing is how some are willing to excuse a coach that hasn't been here in over 5 years and doesn't give a shite about LSU (i know it hurts to hear...but Saban doesnt give a shite about LSU) while at the same time crucifying a guy that wears purple and gold every weekend.....alot times for the same exact failures.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:00 pm to Choctaw
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i was also dumbfounded in '02 when he left the starting QB in against UF even though we were up by about 28 pts, only to watch him get hurt.
bullshite. The score was 33-7 (a 26pt lead) and the drive started at 10:43 to go in the game. It ended at 6:44 to go. So, Mauck's injury occurred with about 8 minutes to go.
Are you saying you are dumbfounded every time a starting QB is left in the game with 8 minutes to go holding a 26-point lead?
Then you must have been cursing the shite out of Les Miles against Auburn this year, huh? Jefferson stayed in the game (with a 31-3 lead) until the 9:01 mark of the 4th quarter. Lee didn't come in until our next possession at 5:27. So, Miles committed another dumbfounding move in that game? Or, are you just making up bullshite?
Still not learning from that apparent blunder against Auburn, in the very next game, Miles kept Jefferson in the game against Tulane with a 28-0 lead until the 9:55 mark of the fourth quarter, when we made it 35-0. Another dumbfounding screwup by Miles?
And you must have really been screaming bloody murder in the 2007 Virginia Tech game when Miles left Flynn in the game well into the 4th quarter with a 34-7 lead, only to see him get hurt. Right?
Complain about UAB, and you're justified. Saban didn't have the team ready in that one. And the Iowa game too if you put that one on him, but this bullshite about leaving Mauck in the game against Florida is just hindsight-inspired drivel. Unless, that is, you think Miles is an even bigger idiot, as the examples above demonstrate.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:17 pm to drexyl
quote:you are a moron, it has nothing to do with damn logic or theories like the other clown said. Saban runs a tight ship, fact, when Julio Jones made that mistake you or someone else mentioned when He came to the sidelines Saban was tearing him a new a-hole.
Drexyl
My Alem comment was just a point of how Miles doesn't run his team right, no control and players know they can get away with shite. He probably patted Alem on the arse, and said no big deal when it was a costly penalty. Y'all just don't get it, just keep makin excuses!
This post was edited on 7/7/10 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:19 pm to Choctaw
why tha frick should he give a frick about LSU? he built them, and has now one another NC in a short time with another school, those Bama players respect him, think Miles' players respect him?
This post was edited on 7/7/10 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:21 pm to drexyl
quote:
is the head coach no longer accountable for the actions of his players?
where did I say this? He made adjustments and the next week we beat #11 Tenn. I don't think anyone believes that Saban is infallible or had a well coached game against UAB.
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since Tyson Jackson was a saban recruit does that absolve miles of any responsibility for his karate chop against UK in 2007?
he had been under Les for 3 years, not a few months. I'll blame that loss on Miles for benching Charles Scott and letting Flynn throw the ball late in the game when he obviously did not have his best stuff.
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hilarious to watch you and everyone else scramble to forgive saban for allowing a culture to exist in his program that let a player believe it is ok to make up a play on the fly en route to a loss to UAB.
He was forgiven for the UAB loss because he brought a 3 win team to a bowl game, then won the SEC title the next year, then won a NC in his 4th year from a program he built. Let's compare the team discipline of the 2003 team to the 2008 team. It isn't like it happened once in the Arkansas game, it happened twice in the same drive.
Miles' players don't respect him, they think he's a joke. I guarantee you that Saban's players respect and feared him
This post was edited on 7/7/10 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:24 pm to TigerBait1127
damn, lightning strikes, we agree.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:27 pm to dukke v
Anyone talking shite about me or Nick in this thread today?
This post was edited on 7/7/10 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:32 pm to tubucoco
quote:so it's okay that Josh booty thought so little of the coaching staff that drew up a play in the dirt just as long as saban throws his headset on the ground afterwards. got it.
you are a moron, it has nothing to do with damn logic or theories like the other clown said. Saban runs a tight ship, fact, when Julio Jones made that mistake you or someone else mentioned when He came to the sidelines Saban was tearing him a new a-hole.
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Y'all just don't get it, just keep makin excuses!
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:35 pm to drexyl
where is the proof he drew up a play in dirt? more delusional BS.
This post was edited on 7/7/10 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:39 pm to drexyl
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started every game after the Florida game until 2nd half of the peach bowl. why?
Looks like Saban FIXED that problem huh?????
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