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Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:19 pm to TN Bhoy
you don't hire Lewis Unglesby if you are innocent. I can't imagine this situation went this far and JJ is squeeky clean. The fact that JJ even put himself in this situation says enough. Where there is smoke there is fire and I can assure you something happened that night and JJ was in the middle of it, whatever happenened is history and hopefully this does not become a distraction for our team who is on a roll.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:20 pm to jr33
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you don't hire Lewis Unglesby if you are innocent.
unbelievable. You hire a great attorney either way if one is available to you
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:20 pm to jr33
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you don't hire Lewis Unglesby if you are innocent.
I seriously doubt he had to seek out Unglesby. Unglesby has taken full advantage of this opportunity.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:21 pm to fistfootway
The grand jury conducts criminal investigations and, if the evidence is sufficient, issue criminal indictments in lieu of a preliminary Superior Court hearing
They are not pronouncing a verdict only confirming there is enough evidence to proceed with a trial.
Their decision does not mean someone was kicked in the head or not- they are confirming a crime has occurred and merits a trial to determine guilt or not guilty
They are not pronouncing a verdict only confirming there is enough evidence to proceed with a trial.
Their decision does not mean someone was kicked in the head or not- they are confirming a crime has occurred and merits a trial to determine guilt or not guilty
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:21 pm to medtiger
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The criteria for 2nd degree battery requires serious bodily injury.
Kicking with a shoe would have been an aggravated battery, with more serious consequences than a simple battery.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:22 pm to TexasTiger89
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Is kicking in the head simple battery? I doubt it. The story was probably found to be BS.
Sorry, should have said decided instead of verdict. This is what I'm looking for, they reduced the charge because they decided he did not kick the guy?
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:22 pm to TigerBait1127
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unbelievable. You hire a great attorney either way if one is available to you
Exactlly it's your right to hire an attorney. Why would you hire a shitty one? You know how many innocent people go to jail?
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:22 pm to jr33
The GJ determined that the kick to the head didn't rise to 2nd degree battery, but there is enough evidence to bring JJ to trial to find out what happened. nothing else.
For the slow ones on here, he wasn't hurt bad enough !
For the slow ones on here, he wasn't hurt bad enough !
This post was edited on 9/28/11 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:22 pm to lsu223
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Kicking with a shoe would have been an aggravated battery, with more serious consequences than a simple battery.
i can see an argument made for it, but it is a stretch IMO
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:24 pm to TigerBait1127
I agree, it may be a bit of a stretch, however we studied a case in class last week in which Louisiana courts found that the use of the shoe was a dangerous weapon.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:25 pm to LSU77
Not many with 8 witnesses... 
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:25 pm to lsu223
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I agree, it may be a bit of a stretch, however we studied a case in class last week in which Louisiana courts found that the use of the shoe was a dangerous weapon.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:25 pm to jr33
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you don't hire Lewis Unglesby if you are innocent
Why not?
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I can't imagine this situation went this far and JJ is squeeky clean.
Why not? What do you know?
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The fact that JJ even put himself in this situation says enough.
Enough to go to jail?
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Where there is smoke there is fire and I can assure you something happened that night and JJ was in the middle of it, whatever happenened is history and
So why bother with a trial? If the cops arrest you, you are automatically guilty?
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history and hopefully this does not become a distraction for our team who is on a roll.
If it hasn't by now it never will.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:26 pm to lsu223
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Kicking someone in the head with a shoe would have been second degree battery. The Grand Jury effectively found that JJ did not kick anyone in the head.
Nope. They decided there wasn't enough evidence to go to trial for the kick to the head.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:26 pm to jr33
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you don't hire Lewis Unglesby if you are innocent.
If you were innocent, you wouldn't hire a competent lawyer?
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:27 pm to lsu223
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The grand jury isn't supposed to make those sorts of decisions, but by throwing out the second degree charge the inference is certainly that he did not kick anyone in the head, or at the very least no evidence exists suggesting that he had.
You should have posted this instead of the first one.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:27 pm to junkfunky
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They decided there wasn't enough evidence to go to trial for the kick to the head.
See the next post I made.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:28 pm to lsu223
Yeah, I wasn't clear the first time around.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 9:29 pm to Ipreciateu2
what I cant understand is if the same witnesses made statements on both players, how is the evidence not good enough to charge Johns, but the its good enough to charge Jefferson with simple battery.
Maybe the severity of the testimony wasn't the same for the two.
But if they testified to the same actions, then all charges should have been dropped?
Im I on the wrong track here?
Maybe the severity of the testimony wasn't the same for the two.
But if they testified to the same actions, then all charges should have been dropped?
Im I on the wrong track here?
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