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re: Russell Sheppard
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:32 pm to josh336
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:32 pm to josh336
No, you explain why a 5 star dynamite prospect and the #1 HS qb should go ahead and sit the bench and expect no chance to compete for a starting job with uh...Lee and Hatch, both of whom have beaten one another out already this year. Explain why we should just assume that he's not going to play over Jordan Jefferson. Don't you think if Jefferson was that good, he'd be able to find PT in this system?
We don't need 5 qb's on the depth chart next year. Someone will either transfer or be moved to a new position. It happens all the time. Leonard Valentine, Jessie Daigle, Ryan Huffman, Melvin Hill, Lester Richard, etc. etc. etc. either leave or switch positions. It just so happens that I really feel JJ might be the guy, based on him being the 3rd qb now and he's certainly the more athletic out of he, Hatch and Lee.
Les not playing freshmen doesn't mean he won't. Saban is doing it now. Maybe Les takes a page from little Nicky's book (please don't think I am saying Saban's a better coach). If Shep is ready, he's ready. In any case, he's supposed to be our guy by '10. We didn't recruit him to come in and sit the bench for three years and it's not like he's playing behind J Russell and M Flynn.
We don't need 5 qb's on the depth chart next year. Someone will either transfer or be moved to a new position. It happens all the time. Leonard Valentine, Jessie Daigle, Ryan Huffman, Melvin Hill, Lester Richard, etc. etc. etc. either leave or switch positions. It just so happens that I really feel JJ might be the guy, based on him being the 3rd qb now and he's certainly the more athletic out of he, Hatch and Lee.
Les not playing freshmen doesn't mean he won't. Saban is doing it now. Maybe Les takes a page from little Nicky's book (please don't think I am saying Saban's a better coach). If Shep is ready, he's ready. In any case, he's supposed to be our guy by '10. We didn't recruit him to come in and sit the bench for three years and it's not like he's playing behind J Russell and M Flynn.
This post was edited on 10/16/08 at 10:34 pm
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Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:32 pm to PinevilleTiger
no, that's not quite it
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:37 pm to PinevilleTiger
He won't be the #1 QB at LSU at any point in his career.
He's too good of an athlete to keep off the field early, and he's not taking the QB spot, so look for him to play all over the place.
He's too good of an athlete to keep off the field early, and he's not taking the QB spot, so look for him to play all over the place.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:38 pm to PiscesTiger
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No, you explain why a 5 star dynamite prospect and the #1 HS qb should go ahead and sit the bench and expect no chance to compete for a starting job with uh...Lee and Hatch, both of whom have beaten one another out already this year. Explain why we should just assume that he's not going to play over Jordan Jefferson.
you obviously don't get what i'm saying, i'm not saying he has no chance of playing, i'm actually saying the opposite, but for everyone to dismiss Lee and Jefferson is ignorant. They have an obvious advantage on the job.
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Don't you think if Jefferson was that good, he'd be able to find PT in this system?
his lack of experience in the system and his recent injury aren't making this possible, but he did play a few plays.
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n any case, he's supposed to be our guy by '10
so Lee will be the QB this year, next year, but lose the position to Shep in 2010? Doesn't make sense, he'll play in the offense, but I don't think it's likely he comes in and takes the job away from everyone else.
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We didn't recruit him to come in and sit the bench for three years and it's not like he's playing behind J Russell and M Flynn
JLee is already as good if not better than Flynn
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:41 pm to josh336
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so Lee will be the QB this year, next year, but lose the position to Shep in 2010? Doesn't make sense, he'll play in the offense, but I don't think it's likely he comes in and takes the job away from everyone else.
You think it's that far-fetched for Lee to get beat out? Maybe I am missing something. I think the kid's having a great year and has tremendous potential, but he's not going to be have the qb position locked down. He can barely keep Hatch at bay. Hatch, by the way, is the most below average qb we've had in a starting role since Chad Loup (minimum of 3 starts).
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JLee is already as good if not better than Flynn
Incorrect.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:42 pm to PiscesTiger
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Incorrect.
prove me wrong, go look up the stats
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:43 pm to PiscesTiger
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You think it's that far-fetched for Lee to get beat out?
A little, especially if he's had the job for 2 and a half years and looks a little better than he does now
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:45 pm to PiscesTiger
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He can barely keep Hatch at bay.
how's that, in playing 1 half, he has the starting job, and hatch's role is diminished to a few plays a game, which Les Miles seems to like. What is really funny, is how people seem to think it's a given a high school kid will come right in and beat out 3 more experienced qbs to take the job. Ryan Perrilloux was more heralded coming out of school than Shep, did he take over in his first year, second, third?
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:46 pm to PiscesTiger
I doubt he gets the QB job his freshman year maybe some TT/RP type plays, but we'll see how JJ develops.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:46 pm to josh336
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prove me wrong, go look up the stats
Stats, schmats. If you're comparing freshman Lee to freshman Flynn, then yeah, you're right. I think you're comparing Flynn of last year to Lee now. You're also out of your box. I really don't care what the passer rating and TD/INt ratio is...and I won't even look it up...but no way. NO WAY. NO WAY is J Lee, right now, a better qb than Matt Flynn of last year.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:47 pm to josh336
JLee WILL BE better than Flynn, but is not right now... F your "stats" watch some games...
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:48 pm to aibo synthetic
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Sheppard won't play QB at LSU except situationally to give the opposing D a change of pace. He's gonna be a Harvin/Holliday type player that can take some snaps at QB to frick the other team up.
Thanks for clearing that up for us, fortune teller. Can you read my fortune next?
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:48 pm to PiscesTiger
you are right, why let facts get in the way of your opinion, i love the rant!
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:49 pm to josh336
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What is really funny, is how people seem to think it's a given a high school kid will come right in and beat out 3 more experienced qbs to take the job.
It happens every year at half a dozen positions. I call it recruiting euphoria. The new guys are always better than what we already have. Then, every year they redshirt or get stuck way down the depth chart, get called busts and get trashed. Then as juniors and seniors they get their turn, step up, and all the idiots ride their sack. It's a never ending cycle.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:51 pm to Cornholio
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Thanks for clearing that up for us, fortune teller. Can you read my fortune next?
You won't play QB at LSU either.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:51 pm to josh336
Are you serious? His numbers look good but watch him... Lee constantly throws behind, ahead of or short of the passer depending on the direction. He needs some work leading his receivers. He has no option capability thus far. He has an arm but less accuracy than Flynn. You think he coulda threaded that Auburn pass last year?
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:52 pm to josh336
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how's that, in playing 1 half, he has the starting job, and hatch's role is diminished to a few plays a game, which Les Miles seems to like. What is really funny, is how people seem to think it's a given a high school kid will come right in and beat out 3 more experienced qbs to take the job.
You think had Hatch not received that concussion that he'd been beaten out? Do you think the coaches were DYING to get Lee back in there if Hatch was healthy? Forget the coaches...what were you thinking when Lee threw that INT at Auburn right before half? Oh, I am sure you were calm and collected and claiming Lee was the man.
If Lee was absolutely the sure thing you claim he is, why would Hatch even come in at all? Do you think Matt Flynn would be taken out for Hatch, here and there? No, he wouldn't...Flynn had wheels, too.
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Ryan Perrilloux was more heralded coming out of school than Shep, did he take over in his first year, second, third?
Horrible analogy. Why? Perrilloux was coming to a program that had J. Russell and Matt Flynn. Shep's coming to a program that has J. Lee and J Jefferson and Hatch. Do you think Lee is on Russell's level? Think before you answer that.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:55 pm to josh336
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you are right, why let facts get in the way of your opinion, i love the rant!
Opinion? I'm sure many others share my opinion as well. You rally need to give this argument up. Let's say Flynn had another year. Do you think Lee would be playing much right how. By your opinion/facts about the qb with the better stats being better, Lee would play over a 6th year senior. Do explain this one...
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:55 pm to PiscesTiger
Russell couldn't beat out Marcus Randall as a RS frosh. Lee is doing quite well right now. Next year, he'll probably be among the top 3 qbs in the SEC.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:56 pm to PiscesTiger
No, he's not on Russell's level, but like you said, he aint coming into a program with Flynn, who you previously agreed was worse than Lee as a freshmen, but is it unreasonable to think Lee will be better than Flynn was in a year or 2? No, he will be better. A real good question, What was I thinking during the Arkansas and Kentucky games last year, and the 2nd and 3rd quarter of the Alabama game?
It was something like, I can't believe our QB, a fifth year senior is playing this poorly.
It was something like, I can't believe our QB, a fifth year senior is playing this poorly.
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