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Posted on 10/14/08 at 8:41 pm to ScoopAndScore
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Not enough data to compare Flynn and Lee. You should know this.
considering the Ds lee has faced and where he faced them, it's pretty relevant
Posted on 10/14/08 at 8:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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considering the Ds lee has faced and where he faced them, it's pretty relevant
not really
Posted on 10/14/08 at 8:43 pm to ScoopAndScore
so we have to wait for lee to play tulane?
Posted on 10/14/08 at 8:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
I have been saying this on here for the past 2 weeks.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 8:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm just saying that to your point, Lee has not played against the non-defenses at Tulane or LA Tech like Flynn did last year.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 8:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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so we have to wait for lee to play tulane?
Yep. That game will tell all.
Seriously though, I'm reserving judgement until he's played at least half a season. Right now, I'm pleased with what he's shown. But some of ya'll are just crazy to start annointing him one of the best ever.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 8:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
No you are right on with the #s and I really do like Lee a lot but its not fair to compare the 2. Lee hasnt even won one big game yet unless you count his play in the 2nd half vs Auburn. I was impressed at the time but Auburn is turning out to not be as tough as I thought.
The difference between the 2 cannot be measured purely in #s. Flynn had the confidence of his team from day 1 because of the win against Notre Dame. Also he had years of practice and was the starter going into the season. There was no question that he was the leader of that offense and no one doubted his ability. Also we have all seen Flynn destroy teams and also make huge throws in the clutch. Their #s may be very similar but a QB has to be a leader and have his team rally behind him. I dont know if Lee has that yet. If he has a play like Flynn did against Auburn last year or leads a drive like Flynn did against Florida he may get that respect. Basically he just needs to show he can perform in the clutch against a good team. Im sure he will but he hasnt yet.
The difference between the 2 cannot be measured purely in #s. Flynn had the confidence of his team from day 1 because of the win against Notre Dame. Also he had years of practice and was the starter going into the season. There was no question that he was the leader of that offense and no one doubted his ability. Also we have all seen Flynn destroy teams and also make huge throws in the clutch. Their #s may be very similar but a QB has to be a leader and have his team rally behind him. I dont know if Lee has that yet. If he has a play like Flynn did against Auburn last year or leads a drive like Flynn did against Florida he may get that respect. Basically he just needs to show he can perform in the clutch against a good team. Im sure he will but he hasnt yet.
This post was edited on 10/14/08 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 10/14/08 at 8:50 pm to ScoopAndScore
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But some of ya'll are just crazy to start annointing him one of the best ever.
who is saying that?
Posted on 10/14/08 at 8:51 pm to lsu480
It's hard to show what you can do with no O-line blocking and your defense giving up a score every time you give the ball back. Lee had some bad throws in that game, but you could tell he was rattled from getting the shite knocked out of him. He also made some great precision throws, though, and if he had had more time I have a feeling LaFell would have gotten about 120 receiving yards.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 8:54 pm to lsu480
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Flynn had the confidence of his team from day 1 because of the win against Notre Dame
the game that JR QB'd?
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Also he had years of practice and was the starter going into the season
and lee not having the practice and being better statistically means what?
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There was no question that he was the leader of that offense and no one doubted his ability.
do you really think the team is doubting lee, especially after flynn played against, say UK or Bama?
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Their #s may be very similar but a QB has to be a leader and have his team rally behind him.
um, Auburn?
hell he rallied our team back against UF also
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Basically he just needs to show he can perform in the clutch against a good team. Im sure he will but he hasnt yet.
while AU isn't good, he's shown he will show up clutch on the road. did flynn ever do that?
Posted on 10/14/08 at 8:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ill say he could be one of the best ever at LSU! No doubt about it in my mind that if he is a 4 year starter he is gonna shatter some records.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 8:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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who is saying that?
Just saying that by comparing him to Flynn, you are comparing him to who many rantards consider one of the best ever since he won a MNC (ala Matt Mauck). I don't prescribe to those theories myself (as neither Matt would likely crack my top 5 all time LSU QB list), and I'm not sure if you do either. Just using multiple rantardish things against you.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 8:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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while AU isn't good, he's shown he will show up clutch on the road. did flynn ever do that?
2nd half against Alabama anyone???
Posted on 10/14/08 at 9:00 pm to ScoopAndScore
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Just saying that by comparing him to Flynn, you are comparing him to who many rantards consider one of the best ever since he won a MNC
well we all know how i feel about that logic
Posted on 10/14/08 at 9:01 pm to Aktig
i like him
Posted on 10/14/08 at 9:02 pm to bayoubengal4life
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2nd half against Alabama anyone???
chad jones sacking JPW and causing a fumble that was recovered inside the 5 has nothing to do with flynn
Posted on 10/14/08 at 9:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
I meant Miami...im sure you figured that out. Also all of my other points are valid and im sure you know that also...you just like to argue which is why I am sure you picked the profession that you did. The bottom line is the entire team,as well as every poster on here including you, would rather have Flynn as a senior starting over Lee as a freshman..even with similar #s. You are,at least I hope you are, smart enough to know stats arent all that makes a QB.
I could also argue that Lees #'s are equal to Flynns because he has a better o-line this year. But I wont because I dont argue stuff I dont think is true just for the sake of arguing.
I could also argue that Lees #'s are equal to Flynns because he has a better o-line this year. But I wont because I dont argue stuff I dont think is true just for the sake of arguing.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 9:05 pm to lsu480
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The bottom line is the entire team,as well as every poster on here including you, would rather have Flynn as a senior starting over Lee as a freshman
No shite, what he is pointing out is that for a green unseasoned qb he is producing like a SR.
This post was edited on 10/14/08 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 10/14/08 at 9:06 pm to L S Usetheforce
No I think he is trying to say they are equal.
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