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Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:05 am to AlexLSU
you really are a holier than though douche.
Maybe we lose to all the same teams again we did this year, it's possible sure.
But its possible that the breaks will fall our way and we'll win all of our games.
we weren't that far removed from having a good season this year, just like we weren't that far removed from being a 5 loss team in 2007.
shitting on other fans optimism doesn't make you smarter about football, or a better fan than them.
Maybe we lose to all the same teams again we did this year, it's possible sure.
But its possible that the breaks will fall our way and we'll win all of our games.
we weren't that far removed from having a good season this year, just like we weren't that far removed from being a 5 loss team in 2007.
shitting on other fans optimism doesn't make you smarter about football, or a better fan than them.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:07 am to RobbBobb
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So now you know more than the NFL scouts?
You cannot be that full of s***!
The NFL is about potential, and I never said anything about his pro career.
I said he blew in college, which he did.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:10 am to yungtigr
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shitting on other fans optimism doesn't make you smarter about football, or a better fan than them.
The fact that people think we're going 11-1 or 12-0 every year makes them dumb, and since I don't think that, yes, I'm smarter.
The fact that we couldn't lose less than two games with more talent in 05/06/07 should be a pretty good indicator that we won't next year. We don't have a solid QB situation. We don't have a proven defense. We lose two linemen, our kicker/punter, FB, a starting WR, our entire defensive line, a MLB, and depth in the secondary.
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we weren't that far removed from having a good season this year
Really? We got beat by double figures three times.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:12 am to AlexLSU
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I said he blew in college, which he did.
yet Cox sat the bench behind him, and you think Cox will put more than 50 pts on the board next yr vs LSU, without Moreno
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:16 am to AlexLSU
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Really? We got beat by double figures three times
And Bama did that how many times?
See how freakin screwed up your logic is?
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:16 am to RobbBobb
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and you think Cox will put more than 50 pts on the board next yr vs LSU,
When did I say that?
Everything you post in response to me you make up.
"Sexton pays you to post here"
"You think Stafford will be a bad pro"
"You think Cox will put up 50+"
Stafford played poorly his entire career considering his talent. Despite how hard people ride Lee on this board, Lee's season this year was not even close to as bad as Stafford's first year. Even this year, with the preseason #1 team and all his potential, he was mediocre.
Cox is not better than Stafford potential wise, but he could be a better college QB.
Now, you're next response should be something like "OMG you think Cox will be 10x better than Stafford?! Lol lol at you!!!"
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:17 am to AlexLSU
and if those other two go our way we're 9-3 and that's a solid season as far as I'm concerned.
And what we did in the past has no bearing on the future. Just look at this year's bama team.
That team caught its two biggest divisional rivals in a shitty year. would that team have gone undefeated in another year of the SEC? I kinda doubt it.
and if the 06 team had 07s schedule i doubt they lose a game either but we'll never know so it doesn't matter.
I'm not saying we WILL go undefeated. But i think we'll be good enough that if all the breaks go our way (and they have to to go undefeated in the SEC at this point) we could. And if they all don't we could be sitting at 7-5 again.
everyone else loses talent too. bama loses a cornerstone on it's OLine and we saw how that affected them in the bowl.
OM is losing guys on both lines, their strongest point on this years team.
K/P and FB are the only spot we're losing were the replacements haven't gotten significant playing time, and all of those guys have shown things to look forward to.
And what we did in the past has no bearing on the future. Just look at this year's bama team.
That team caught its two biggest divisional rivals in a shitty year. would that team have gone undefeated in another year of the SEC? I kinda doubt it.
and if the 06 team had 07s schedule i doubt they lose a game either but we'll never know so it doesn't matter.
I'm not saying we WILL go undefeated. But i think we'll be good enough that if all the breaks go our way (and they have to to go undefeated in the SEC at this point) we could. And if they all don't we could be sitting at 7-5 again.
everyone else loses talent too. bama loses a cornerstone on it's OLine and we saw how that affected them in the bowl.
OM is losing guys on both lines, their strongest point on this years team.
K/P and FB are the only spot we're losing were the replacements haven't gotten significant playing time, and all of those guys have shown things to look forward to.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:18 am to RobbBobb
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And Bama did that how many times?
See how freakin screwed up your logic is?
I responded to him saying we were this close to having a good season, which we weren't.
Bama lost one less game by double figures and still won 5 more games than we did. Just because you want to compare the two things said does not mean the add up, especially when you take them out of one context and spin it around.
Just stop trying. This is like four straight posts that you've fricked up a potential insult.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:23 am to AlexLSU
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When did I say that?
When you said despite losing Stafford, Ga will still beat us. Meaning: Stafford & Moreno engineered 50+ pts this yr. We've already seen that LSU is improving, therefore, Ga will have to do better than they did, in order to beat us.
I say they cant. you say Cox is better. Im calling BS. Im also reminding you that Bama went into Ga and cleaned their clock. Ole Miss did it to Fla. So you homer game crap doesnt wash either.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:26 am to yungtigr
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and if those other two go our way we're 9-3 and that's a solid season as far as I'm concerned.
But they didn't. Every team can look for optimism in moral victories, but it doesn't quite translate to actual victories.
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And what we did in the past has no bearing on the future. Just look at this year's bama team.
I hate to say it (as much as you people would love to believe otherwise), but they have a better coach as far as the regular season is concerned. He did the same thing for an LSU team that was mediocre in 2002, turning them around big time. I don't think Les can do that unless a bunch of teams just implode.
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That team caught its two biggest divisional rivals in a shitty year. would that team have gone undefeated in another year of the SEC? I kinda doubt it.
No, but they didn't have any depth at all, so I wouldn't expect them to.
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and if the 06 team had 07s schedule i doubt they lose a game either but we'll never know so it doesn't matter.
Probably wouldn't have lost a game IMO either.
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I'm not saying we WILL go undefeated. But i think we'll be good enough that if all the breaks go our way (and they have to to go undefeated in the SEC at this point) we could. And if they all don't we could be sitting at 7-5 again.
But see, we're hoping for "all the breaks." You aren't going to get "all the breaks" against the big boys we'll be facing next year unless something terrible happens to half the SEC. As hard as it is for LSU fans to realize, those four teams we play in big games have a better set of circumstances than us (either more experience or homefield advantage).
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everyone else loses talent too. bama loses a cornerstone on it's OLine and we saw how that affected them in the bowl.
They lose the same amount of olinemen as we do.
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OM is losing guys on both lines, their strongest point on this years team
But return the meat of it. If you want to talk lines, LSU is technically losing 6/10 of their starting linemen (not counting Black if he declares).
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K/P and FB are the only spot we're losing were the replacements haven't gotten significant playing time, and all of those guys have shown things to look forward to
Remember how most people believed we'd just "reload" this year after last year's team? A lot of people thought we'd even be better on offense. It's easier said than done my man.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:28 am to AlexLSU
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This is like four straight posts that you've fricked up a potential insult
I dunno. everybody at my place is
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:29 am to RobbBobb
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When you said despite losing Stafford, Ga will still beat us. Meaning: Stafford & Moreno engineered 50+ pts this yr. We've already seen that LSU is improving, therefore, Ga will have to do better than they did, in order to beat us.
But what does any of that have to do with scoring 50 points? Are we just assuming the game will play out the exact same next year? Are we throwing pick 6's? Are they just gonna play soft D the entire fourth quarter and let us score?
Saying that I think they'll beat us does not translate to "I think they'll score more than 50 on us next year judging by last year's final score."
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I say they cant. you say Cox is better.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:30 am to RobbBobb
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I dunno. everybody at my place is
Sounds like they most be high.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:30 am to AlexLSU
I think we're at about the same point really as far as were we think next year's team will be but you want to look at it from the negatives during the offseason and that just isn't how i'm going to look at it.
what's the fun in being a fan if you can't think about "what could be" over the summer.
My head usually knows when the odds are stacked against us. But my heart never lets me find a game to mark down as a loss. That's just me. (fla this year was the only game going in that i said "i don't think we can win this")
what's the fun in being a fan if you can't think about "what could be" over the summer.
My head usually knows when the odds are stacked against us. But my heart never lets me find a game to mark down as a loss. That's just me. (fla this year was the only game going in that i said "i don't think we can win this")
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:31 am to AlexLSU
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A lot of people thought we'd even be better on offense.
Do you just make stuff up?
NO ONE said that after RP was dismissed, and we lost a 4 NFLers.
Everyone thought we would struggle, and that the D would need to step up.
They didnt
Neither have you. Youre still an idiot despite having lost nothing to the NFL
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:35 am to RobbBobb
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Do you just make stuff up?
NO ONE said that after RP was dismissed, and we lost a 4 NFLers.
Everyone thought we would struggle, and that the D would need to step up.
They didnt
Yes, they did. No one wants to admit that they were horribly wrong, but people said "with our oline and running game, plus our WRs, Crowton will flourish in his 2nd year"
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Youre still an idiot despite having lost nothing to the NFL
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:43 am to AlexLSU
Anyways, to get on topic of the actual thread:
LSU 38 - UW 17
LSU 35 - Vandy 20
LSU 52 - ULL 10
LSU 45 - MSU 17
UGA 28 - LSU 24
UF 34 - LSU 23
LSU 24 - AU 14
LSU 49 - Tulane 21
Bama 23 - LSU 20
LSU 48 - LT 10
LSU 34 - Miss 30
LSU 45 - Ark 24
Ole Miss or Bama goes to the SECCG, depending on who wins in Oxford most likely. Both will have similar records to LSU.
We'll play in the Cotton or Capital One.
JJ will be inconsistent at times, one par with JR's 2005 season (though better statistically because of the offense).
The D will hopefully get back to its dominant past, but I'm not going to say that considering all the question marks.
LSU 38 - UW 17
LSU 35 - Vandy 20
LSU 52 - ULL 10
LSU 45 - MSU 17
UGA 28 - LSU 24
UF 34 - LSU 23
LSU 24 - AU 14
LSU 49 - Tulane 21
Bama 23 - LSU 20
LSU 48 - LT 10
LSU 34 - Miss 30
LSU 45 - Ark 24
Ole Miss or Bama goes to the SECCG, depending on who wins in Oxford most likely. Both will have similar records to LSU.
We'll play in the Cotton or Capital One.
JJ will be inconsistent at times, one par with JR's 2005 season (though better statistically because of the offense).
The D will hopefully get back to its dominant past, but I'm not going to say that considering all the question marks.
This post was edited on 1/8/09 at 1:44 am
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:46 am to AlexLSU
out of those "Big 4" (UF,BAMA,UGA,OM) I think we will win one and could win 2-3
we could easily lose to Ark or Aubie though.
I think we split the big 4 and lose one of those other two.
So 9-3 is what i'm thinking and if the losses are to the right people (the east teams) we could land in ATL again.
we could easily lose to Ark or Aubie though.
I think we split the big 4 and lose one of those other two.
So 9-3 is what i'm thinking and if the losses are to the right people (the east teams) we could land in ATL again.
This post was edited on 1/8/09 at 1:48 am
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:01 am to yungtigr
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So 9-3 is what i'm thinking and if the losses are to the right people (the east teams) we could land in ATL again.
Ala 2001.
Hopefully so, but like you and I said, it's all about who you lose to.
I think it's very unrealistic to say we'll go undefeated. Like I said earlier, it would take a complete implosion by other teams for that to happen given the circumstances surrounding this team. I've predicted LSU to go undefeated before (2007), but that was against an easier schedule and with a MUCH more solid football team.
9-3 is a good season IMO for LSU. It's not great, but it's good.
Losing 5 games again is completely unacceptable. That means that we lost to every good preseason team, and then some, which would be enough for me to be ready to kick Les out. Also, people with these lofty expectations (i.e. 14-0/13-1) are the same people who will be most disappointed if we don't achieve it. Those people, who have unrealistic expectations that more than likely won't be reached, are a huge factor in coaches being on the hotseat. Fans can be optimistic, but there's a difference between optimism and drinking kool aid.
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