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re: Phil Steele on Rusillo talks up LSU

Posted on 7/24/15 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 3:09 pm to
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You really have mental issues... We don't know how good this year wr's are gonna be


This year's wr's, as a group, may be the best unit LSU has ever had. Dural is likely a second round draft pick. Dupree came on strong, and will eventually be a first round draft pick. Chark adds another explosive threat, while throw in Quinn and Diarse....and then you add another 5 star kid in this class.....wow....no wonder the other cats are transferring. LSU is stacked at WR, from explosive playmakers, to possession rec's, to strong YAC rec's. In fact, overall, this may be the most talented offensive unit LSU has ever had. People are also knocking the defense. Adams is going to be the next superstar playmaker in the backfield, and watch out for Voorhies at LB. In addition, our De's weren't good last year....we might actually updrade there, while are DT's should go from good at the end of last season, to very good this year. Yes, I could easily see this team being one of the best LSU has ever had, with just a little improvement from the QB position. They have recruited very well over the last few years.

Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 3:14 pm to
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Let the idiots fall for this nonsense. It will be similar to what happened to TAMU in 2013. Dak will put up a lot of yards and points


State will finish last in the West this year. Bookmark it, do whatever. They simply lost too much. It's not like they have players like they had last year just waiting in the wings every year. Truth is, they caught LSU at the right time of the year, as well as Arkansas. Bama crushed them and auburn and A&M simply weren't that good. Also, teams started to figure out how to play against Prescot at the end of last year....it made a difference. I saw where one poster said he can't believe he came back....lol...the reason is that he would have been a 5th to 7th round draft pick, if he was lucky.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:28 pm to
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Let's not forget, We were Miss St's whipping dog last year. With Dak back, we can't look past this 1st SEC game.


And we beat them 59-26 on the road the year before, so what's your point????

We also ran for 226 yards and 6 TDs on 5.72 ypc

That same year we beat TAMU 34-10 posting 324 rush yards at 5.89 ypc and 4 TDs

Our problem last year was we were just green on offense and defense early on. We are not like that this year. They lose A LOT, including all of their big name guys outside of Dak and Derunnya.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:35 pm to
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In fact, overall, this may be the most talented offensive unit LSU has ever had



WHOA.... That's a reach... They will not come close to matching 2013 #'s overall... I guess you people just don't realize how mediocre LSU's offense was last year... For that to Happen Harris is gonna have to have a Vince Young type season.......... The talent may be there but they are still very young and I still don't know how good the WR's can be... The QB play last year didn't do them justice IMO....



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our De's weren't good last year


If I remember they were near the top of the SEC........


Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:38 pm to
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State will finish last in the West this year. Bookmark it, do whatever. They simply lost too much.


You act as if they are gona start freshman at every position... They may not have a ton of experience BUt have a veteran team with all the jr's and seniors coming back.. Does this mean they will be as good as last year??? NO. but it also doesn't mean LSU is gonna go THERE and win by three td's either....Plus IF Harris is the starter this will be a road game ...Lets hope he is still not haunted by what happened in his last start on the road against[by the rants terms] was a shitty AU team that still beat LSU by 34...........
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:03 pm to
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our De's weren't good last year If I remember they were near the top of the SEC........


I'm sure you can find a stat that will support your statement. However, if I remember correctly, they only had a handful of sacks for the entire year, and seldom generated much pressure.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
27284 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:05 pm to
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You really have mental issues... We don't know how good this year wr's are gonna be... We def can't go by what happened last ear with hat stellar qb AJ at the helm............


Prior to 2011
Our returning leading WR had 544 yards and 3 TDs (16.48 ypr)
Our 2nd had 254 and 1 TD (7.70 ypr)
Our #3 had 52 yards (13.30 ypr)

Prior to 2015
Our returning leading WR has 758 yards and 7 TDs (20.49 ypr)
Our 2nd has 318 yards and 5 TDs (22.71 ypr)
Our 3rd AND 4th has 275 yards 3 TDs (18.33 ypr) and 198 yards respectively

Lee and Jefferson had much more experience than Jennings and Harris as well. Now we will see these two QBs with experience. Also like i said, LSU has never had two consecutive bad years at QB under Les.

Stop showing your dumbassery

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But that team went 11-2..... Gee there must be something MORE to quality qb play besides stats........


Well gee don't ya think?? Their defense was statically the same as our defense from last year except we didn't give games away in the waning moments (ex. Notre Dame and Bama). We were also one throw away from beating MSU who went full retard in the 4th quarter.

Having a senior in Terrance Toliver (who was gone before 2011) plus winning the close games, is what helped them to come out with 11 wins.

Think man, or do you have dementia?

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Not really... YOU said that this years offense is WAY better han the one that came into 2011.. So that's makes it sound like this years team will be way better than the 2011 eam... AGAIN you say this offense will be better and has a softer schedule... So why say 10-2?????? Why not 12-0 like the 2011 team???? You are talking out of both sides of your mouth......


This is what I said numbnuts This offense is waaaay more talented than coming into 2015 than the offense coming into 2011 was, and it's not hyperbole.

This offense is obviously more talented. We have 3 returning starting OL that will be top 3 round draft picks. Both starting WRs will be top 2 round picks, a starting RB with 1st round talent, and QB in Harris, YES HARRIS, who is more physically talented than both Lee and Jefferson. With 2 productive years, even DeSean Smith could be a top 3 round pick because of his physical attributes, improvement in blocking, and hands.

Where did I say we have a softer schedule? Where, where, where???? The offense doesn't need to do much to be better than 2011. 2011 was game manager and power football, the real stars were the amazing defense and special teams.

Please just stop replying to me if you aren't even going to try to understand, or even read what I actually posted..
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:10 pm to
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Does this mean they will be as good as last year??? NO. but it also doesn't mean LSU is gonna go THERE and win by three td's either.


I think it is the bet of the year looking at the early line. State will be the least talented team in the SEC West, and as more film has gotten out on Dak, teams are learning how to slow him down some. All we need now is for you to take State and the points in the game, and that will all but guarantee that LSU wins by double digits.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:10 pm to
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However, if I remember correctly, they only had a handful of sacks for the entire year, and seldom generated much pressure.



I agree here... This WILL change this year with coach "O"... I see a ton of difference in that area.... This years LSU team has a chance o be special, But there are areas that cause concern with them being so young... Go to MSU and win even by one point and it could be a crucial stepping stone for things to come........
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:15 pm to
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This offense is waaaay more talented than coming into 2015 than the offense coming into 2011


He has a hard time distinguishing talent from productivity. I agree, and this may be overall the most talent LSU has ever had on offense. Think about it, LF was the #1 player in the country. Dupree was the top Rec in the country, and this year LSU got yet another rec that ranks in the top 5 in the country. BH was what, the #2 ranked dual threat in the nation? They got a top Tight End, and also picked up a 5 star OL this year, as well as several very highly ranked OL. Again, overall, this is probably the most TALENTED group as a unit that LSU has ever had on offense.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:22 pm to
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But there are areas that cause concern with them being so young


We will have to disagree here. The entire starting offense has significant game experience. LF, MD, TQ, BH, and the Tight End all got experience last year. They will be good to go this year. We should see significant improvement by all of them.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:23 pm to
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Stop showing your dumbassery




Look dude... Grow up and stop with the name calling... I say something you don't like and you go off... Settle down... You think you are the only one that follows football on here ........


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Now we will see these two QBs with experience


Yes they have a year more experience... That doesn't mean shite till we see how improved they are... You have NO clue how good they will be.... You think you do but unless YOU are at practice everyday you have no clue just like everybody else on here.....



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Think man, or do you have dementia?



Dude I have been following football before you were even born... Again quit acting like a blind homer and realize that other people may be right and you are wrong... Its called football maturity.........




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This offense is waaaay more talented than coming into 2015 than the offense coming into 2011 was, and it's not hyperbole.




This is just an opinion and you could be wrong until we see them on the field.... Is the POTENTIAL there??? Sure... Results are what counts....


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and QB in Harris, YES HARRIS, who is more physically talented than both Lee and Jefferson



Based on what??? A game against shitty NMST??? Or a comeback against MSU when they only rushed three guys the whole time Harris was on the field??? Those are facts you can't deny and it proves nothing as how far he has progressed in this offense....
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:25 pm to
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All we need now is for you to take State and the points in the game, and that will all but guarantee that LSU wins by double digits.




Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:26 pm to
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Go to MSU and win even by one point and it could be a crucial stepping stone for things to come........


My favorite bet of the year after looking at all the pre-season lines. LSU is only like a 3 point favorite. You guys are overestimating State. LSU won't go into this game overconfident, you can bet they will be hungry and focused to take care of business after what happened last year. LSU is MUCH the more talented team, and I think they win by 10-17 points.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:34 pm to
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LSU is MUCH the more talented team, and I think they win by 10-17 points.



I hope you are right.. It would be a key victory and a huge win with AU coming in for a revenge game.....
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 10:19 am to
If you don't think that Harris is much more physically gifted than Jefferson or lee you should probably reevaluate that "football IQ" of yours
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 10:54 am to
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If you don't think that Harris is much more physically gifted than Jefferson or lee


Lee for sure.... But JJ was bigger and faster than Harris... NOW this could all change depending on results... Harris needs to be the starter... I just think his football instincts are better than AJ.. And JJ and Lee... Lee doesn't fit anywhere in this convo because of the type of qb his was...
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 1:21 pm to
JJ is not faster than harris
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 3:15 pm to
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JJ is not faster than harris

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That's Peej for you.

I don't know about overall speed. There is zero doubt that Harris is quicker than JJ though, and that's what really matters at the QB position.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
5024 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 5:30 pm to
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outside MLB I don't think we'll be excellent.


I'm interested to see what the LB corps will look like this year, especially with two new DEs. I've been surprised so far by the careers of Deion Jones and Ronnie Feist in that I've always thought those two had so much potential. Jones with his speed and Feist as a power player/run stuffer.
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