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re: Orgeron: It's going to look different, because it is different

Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:25 am to
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:25 am to
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Interesting. So 395 is easy vs average defense, yet it wasn't accomplished early in the season or any previous seasons. Averaging 300 over 4 games is easy vs poor defenses yet it hadn't been done in almost 20 years.

It looks to me like you're demeaning a fantastic performance. 2nd in LSU history just to keep someone else's narrative alive.
Boom!
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:27 am to
This is not the case at all. If you want to look at things from a simpleton's point of view I guess you can see it this way



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What a fricking simpleton



Wow I'm a simpleton but you have to read my posts to fill out your vocabulary.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:37 am to
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Upgraded RBs


We've had a ridiculous stable of RB's damn near every year. This is not a reason to believe change has occurred




Huh? It's early and I'm on my first cup of coffee but are you saying that LSU hasn't upgraded at running back?

Maybe I'm reading that wrong. If not

Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:42 am to
LSU has upgraded I guess, if for no other reason than O signed just a single RB in the 2016 and 2017 classes. Depth on the other hand is another question.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:56 am to
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LSU has upgraded I guess



Refer to the post above yours.
Posted by TNTigerman
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:04 am to
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We’re still going to have the physicality that we need to, that’s in our DNA at LSU.”

I'd like to ask O what DNA stands for.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:09 am to
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I'd like to ask O what DNA stands for.

Dirty rice ‘N Andouille
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:21 am to
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LSU has upgraded I guess, if for no other reason than O signed just a single RB in the 2016 and 2017 classes. Depth on the other hand is another question.


Man that's a patented tactic of the coach; tank the expectations then do what he's supposed to be doing so he gets extra credit.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:28 am to
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Man that's a patented tactic of the coach; tank the expectations then do what he's supposed to be doing so he gets extra credit.


You're some kind of "special" if you believe that Alex Jones type bullshite
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:31 am to
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We've had a ridiculous stable of RB's damn near every year.


Not in 2018

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:32 am to
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but are you saying that LSU hasn't upgraded at running back?


Yeah Stubborness and stupidity
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:32 am to
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LSU has upgraded I guess, if for no other reason than O signed just a single RB in the 2016 and 2017 classes. Depth on the other hand is another question.
C'mon man.

This isn't a quilting bee. Everyone knows that recruiting elites starts at least 2 years before signing day. The '16 class was completely Miles', and the '17 class was mostly Miles'.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:44 am to
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Not in 2018

Hence the ONE RB signed in the two preceding classes. Coaching malpractice.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:46 am to
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This isn't a quilting bee. Everyone knows that recruiting elites starts at least 2 years before signing day. The '16 class was completely Miles', and the '17 class was mostly Miles'.

Poor Ol' O, the guy just can't catch a break! You can't expect a purported elite recruiter to join the staff in January 2015, become recruiting coordinator in January 2016, become head coach in September 2016, and manage to sign any recruits until AT LEAST 2018. It clearly takes two years to win any top-tier recruit, just look at how long Bama worked on Saivion Smith.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282134 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:51 am to
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become recruiting coordinator in January 2016,


The ignorance you have about this position is astounding.

The 17 class was definitely mediocre, 18 was very good. We are set for a great year and some of the 18 recruits will contribute immediately.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:53 am to
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You can't expect a purported elite recruiter to join the staff in January 2015, become recruiting coordinator in January 2016
Recruiting coordinators aren't what you think they are.

Position coaches make their wish lists, but HCs make all major decisions. RC's direct traffic.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 9:55 am
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:53 am to
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The ignorance you have about this position is astounding.

Should I presume that a school's recruiting coordinator would not have any say in the recruiting strategy (as Frank Wilson was under Miles) and no relationship with recruits? O had a leg up in that he had been on staff for two years before the 2017 class was signed AND was recruiting coordinator... FOR THAT VERY CLASS! But it was that dang Miles' fault that O couldn't sign a good class!

ETA: and the funny thing is that the 2017 class was actually ranked much higher than O's 2018 class, for which he was totally in charge of
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 9:57 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282134 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:56 am to
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Should I presume that a school's recruiting coordinator would not have any say in the recruiting strategy


It's supervisory and administrative. The RC doesn't decide who to accept in a class

Who is the RC now? I'll bet you have to google.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:00 am to
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Should I presume that a school's recruiting coordinator would not have any say in the recruiting strategy


Yes, the RC can finesse some here and there, but the position coaches and HC have the lion's share of clout in the selections. And if the recruiting is done by geographically determined territories (most programs are), the effectiveness of the territory recruiter has a big impact.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:01 am to
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Who is the RC now? I'll bet you have to google



His ignorance of that position is astounding.
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