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re: one of the main reasons i like coach O and think he'll be a success at LSU
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:37 pm to LSU GrandDad
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:37 pm to LSU GrandDad
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and then rickdad and his bull shite
Yeah stating facts about Ed Orgeron's career is bullshite.
Just because you dont like those facts doesnt make them bullshite.
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:38 pm to Howyouluhdat
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No AD hiring a new coach knows future results lol. All of them are a risk
No shite. But youre trying to make that risk small as possible by hiring a coach that has proven he can run a successful offense, defense,or program.
Ed Orgeron has done none of these.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:42 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Wow, it must be tough not being able to read. I said there is no definitive proof. I also said the evidence for it is not zero. WTF is wrong with you?
Holy shite.
Saying this....
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I also said the evidence for it is not zero.
Means you think there is proof.
You cant say that there is some evidence that he is a better coach and then say there isnt definitive proof.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:44 pm to RedTigerRulz
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You're minimizing what Saban did.....he still won the SEC. Its not his fault the competition was at a different level at that time.
During his tenure at lsu only 3 times did a sec west opponent finish with 10 wins.
Only 2 west opponents finished ranked in the top 10.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:47 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:actually you can. Some evidence does not equal definitive proof.
You cant say that there is some evidence that he is a better coach and then say there isnt definitive proof.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:50 pm to RedTigerRulz
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got this rickdaddy??
Yeah thank god the west was so shitty that 3 losses won the west.
Saban's tenure at lsu= 16 losses and 12 conference losses
Miles ' last 5 full seasons= 15 losses and 12 conference losses.
If you gave miles a sec west title fpr every season he had 3 losses or less he would have 8 sec west titles.
If you gave Saban, at lsu, a national title for every 2 loss or less season he would still just have 1 title at lsu.
Out of Saban and miles, miles is the only 1 that has a sec title with nothing but his recruits.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:54 pm to drexyl
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actually you can. Some evidence does not equal definitive proof.
Youre right. Point taken.
My original point still stands. There is zero evidence he is a better coach because you'd be basing it on an interim tenure where he didnt hire the coordinators, didnt run either side of the ball,didnt choose schemes, and had zero hand in getting the stars of 2016 on the team.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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My original point still stands. There is zero evidence he is a better coach because you'd be basing it on an interim tenure where he didnt hire the coordinators, didnt run either side of the ball,didnt choose schemes, and had zero hand in getting the stars of 2016 on the team.
Then why couldn't the previous coaches win with the same personnel?
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:10 pm to Howyouluhdat
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Then why couldn't the previous coaches win with the same personnel?
Uh, miles wouldve beaten the teams we beat under Orgeron as well.
Arky ole miss and Missouri had the 89th,116th,&117th ranked rush defenses.
Miles didnt lose to teams that had shite run defenses.
Hell Coach O used the same gameplan as miles uses against bama.
He also lost at home to a 14 point underdog that was missing tons of defensive starters starters.
That sounds just like a recent Les Miles season.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:12 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Okay, if not coach O, then who should we have signed?
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:15 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Uh, miles wouldve beaten the teams we beat under Orgeron as well.
Miles would have struggled mightily to beat them. He def wouldn't have had the team ready to beat Louisville. Every game we won with O we beat the shite out of the opponent. Miles wouldn't know what fricking down it was
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:17 pm to Howyouluhdat
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Miles would have struggled mightily to beat them.
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He def wouldn't have had the team ready to beat Louisville.
Was aranda not gonna be there if miles wasnt fired? Ed Orgeron didnt make up the defensive gameplan nor did he run the offense.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:19 pm to Space Cowboy
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Okay, if not coach O, then who should we have signed?
Ive already answered this.
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Literally any coordinator that has proven he can successfully run a side of the ball or a head coach that has proven he can run a successful program.
Hell Coach O didnt even have the best resume on lsu's 2016 staff.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:21 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Was aranda not gonna be there if miles wasnt fired? Ed Orgeron didnt make up the defensive gameplan nor did he run the offense.
Doesn't matter who the coordinator is. You still have to have the D ready to play. If O had nothing to do with the offense then why did we break records immediately the game after he was named interim and continued after that?
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:23 pm to Howyouluhdat
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If O had nothing to do with the offense then why did we break records immediately the game after he was named interim and continued after that?
Holy shite. In 32 years ed Orgeron has never once worked on the offensive side of the ball.
Also if you enjoyed our offense why werent you for keeping Ensminger on as OC? He was the game planner and play caller.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:28 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Holy shite. In 32 years ed Orgeron has never once worked on the offensive side of the ball.
So everything was a mere coincidence? Gotcha. Is that your defense? Or Ensminger did it all alone? O absolutely had a hand in it. Ricky you are pathetic dude. You will never ever admit your are wrong. Know it all douchebag. Your entertaining though
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:33 pm to Howyouluhdat
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So everything was a mere coincidence? Gotcha. Is that your defense? Or Ensminger did it all alone?
He has never once been an offensive coach.
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O absolutely had a hand in it. R
You have no idea what youre talking about. He has never coached on that side of the ball.
Did you give miles credit for having a hand in the defense?
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Ricky you are pathetic dude.
Get the part where i care what you think.
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You will never ever admit your are wrong.
I admitted to being wrong about something in this thread.
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Know it all douchebag.
I've always been a know it all because I know it all.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:37 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Did you give miles credit for having a hand in the defense?
If he would've completely revived a defense the very game after he was named coach then yes I would give him credit. You don't have to know a particular side of the ball to completely change the play calling. They aren't 5 yr olds. College coaches no matter what side of the ball still know basic football knowledge
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:39 pm to Howyouluhdat
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If he wouldn't completely revived a defense the very game after was named coach then yes I would give him credit.
He wasnt in charge of the offense.he wasnt the play caller.
The offense was revived because we played the 117th ranked run defense.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:42 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Any unproven as a head coach coordinator who appeared to be successful or any proven head coach.
So as far as you are concerned, Coach Aranda or coach Canada are better qualified than coach O and would have made a better hire.
Okay, who was the available successful head coaches suitable to become the head coach at LSU?
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Hell Coach O didnt even have the best resume on lsu's 2016 staff.
Really, I wasn't aware that we had another coach on the staff with head coaching experience.
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