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Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:33 pm to SouthernMan
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bmy
you can get banned for calling someone out?
quote:Oh, calling out an admin may just do it.
That's pretty much what happened to me so I guess so.
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:35 pm to Rocket
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starting a thread calling out another poster is what did you in
They should have shot me for that, banning just doesn't fit the crime!
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You got called names for making bull shite arguments
Arguments which you still refuse to counter with fact, because you can't.
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:36 pm to Geauxtiga
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Geauxtiga
I call you out... Do you accept my challenge?
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:37 pm to Geauxtiga
So you admit that Rocket is an admin?
Does being an admin make you right automatically?
Just curious...
Does being an admin make you right automatically?
Just curious...
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:38 pm to SouthernMan
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The thread that got me banned was titled 'Challenge to Rocket' and I challenged you to disprove my point about Chavis using the facts(stats) with the loser leaving the site forever
I remember the thread vaguely but I don't remember you talking about leaving forever. You said those numbers included every school where Chavis had been a DC at, and you didn't limit it to D-1 schools, which meant that those numbers were supposed to include the games where he coached at Bama State and Bama A&M. They didn't. It was that easy.
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So perhaps you are Chicken's excrement
Are willing to accept my challenge about who anchored the thread you started earlier tonight?
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Obviously you can not refute the facts
You have numbers. I haven't even looked into whether or not the numbers from that site are even accurate. Your numbers don't make an argument. Like I've already said, the coaches coached in different leagues for a long time.
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Pretty pathetic, actually
The only thing that is pathetic is your inability to accept my challenge about who anchored that thread even you had no problem suggesting it was I who anchored it. You're scared of being banned.
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:38 pm to tduecen
Does anybody know what the he'll they're talking about? 
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:39 pm to peopleschamp
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Does anybody know what the he'll they're talking about?
does anyone care?
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:39 pm to peopleschamp
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Does anybody know what the he'll they're talking about?
something that happened 4 months ago
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:40 pm to SouthernMan
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They should have shot me for that, banning just doesn't fit the crime!
They should have never let your arse back on
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Arguments which you still refuse to counter with fact, because you can't.
I completely debunked the entire argument, which you failed to include numbers from Chavis' first 2 stints as DC at schools before Tennessee.
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:46 pm to SouthernMan
quote:Honestly not sure but something he said made me assume he was. I'm NOT, was only shittin with you earlier to lighten this shite up.
So you admit that Rocket is an admin?
quote:No but I'm sure you never disrespectful to your teachers, for example, were you. Just that insulation they get from the position as in most cases. Life ain't fair.
Does being an admin make you right automatically?
This post was edited on 7/14/10 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:46 pm to Rocket
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Chicken's excrement
What's that?
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:52 pm to Rocket
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you didn't limit it to D-1 schools
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the coaches coached in different leagues for a long time
Which way do you want it, Rocket?
Obviously 14 and 15 years respectively in the same league is a pretty good barometer.
NfL and DII are different animals, like you said.
The argument being made was that Chavis was horrible because he had been 'out gained' and that we could expect scoring defense to decline under his leadership.
I countered that he had a long history of producing top level defenses and compared him statistically to the mighty Saban at which point you called me a lying $%^#.
I couldn't find the website at the time because it had been research for an article I had done months before, again you called me a liar.
I made the challenge, I got banned.
now, you have linked the site yourself and can do the math.
Chavis has produced defenses that are just as good as Saban as their decade and a half record indicates!
As for your challenge, you really need to grow up. You obviously know what you did or didn’t do. It’s just funny that I got banned and then anchored when arguing (effectively) with you.
Try to stick to the argument and drop the name calling; I would think a site moderator (are you not?) would act more professionally.
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:58 pm to SouthernMan
Boy, this thread took a detour straight to hell, but it has been slightly amusing.
SM,
personally, i don't think Rocket is an admin. I've seen him argue and discuss hundreds of topics much worse than what you are discussing. These posters were not banned for arguing with him.
Hell, just go back to threads last night, rocket and tubucco and PJaaay argue all the time and they are never banned.
SM,
personally, i don't think Rocket is an admin. I've seen him argue and discuss hundreds of topics much worse than what you are discussing. These posters were not banned for arguing with him.
Hell, just go back to threads last night, rocket and tubucco and PJaaay argue all the time and they are never banned.
Posted on 7/15/10 at 12:03 am to SouthernMan
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Which way do you want it, Rocket?
I'm saying your first set of numbers were bullshite because you didn't limit it to Chavis' first 2 stints at DC and you said it included every stop where he had been a DC. Even if you did, they coached in different leagues so it's pointless to compare.
Although I did quickly do some math and compared just their times as coaches in the SEC. If the numbers on that site are accurate and I did the math correctly:
For Saban, I got 16.99 for points allowed
For Chavis, I got 19.01
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Obviously 14 and 15 years respectively in the same league is a pretty good barometer.
When I meant leagues, I was talking about conferences
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countered that he had a long history of producing top level defenses and compared him statistically to the mighty Saban at which point you called me a lying $%^#.
Actually, I don't think I called you any names until later
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Chavis has produced defenses that are just as good as Saban as their decade and a half record indicates
If the math I've done is correct for just their SEC play, Saban's is better
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As for your challenge, you really need to grow up. You obviously know what you did or didn’t do
I knew you wouldn't have the courage to accept the challenge. I was right all along about you.
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Try to stick to the argument and drop the name calling; I would think a site moderator (are you not?) would act more professionally
I'll do it when you accept my challenge
This post was edited on 7/15/10 at 12:06 am
Posted on 7/15/10 at 12:05 am to DollaChoppa
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So you think Miles is better than Saban
Of course don't you.
Posted on 7/15/10 at 12:11 am to Rocket
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When I meant leagues, I was talking about conferences
Really, Rocket, now you want to move the target again?
1st you want me to include Chavis record in DII but now you want to EXCLUDE Saban's time in the Big Ten?
Give me a break.
Chavis is one of the best and most proven DCo's in the business, bottom line.
You can spin Saban's numbers all you want but the fact is Chavis has had similar success in his respective and comparable career.
That was the point and you lost THE real challenge now geaux away!
Posted on 7/15/10 at 12:18 am to SouthernMan
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Really, Rocket, now you want to move the target again?
I was honestly talking about conferences when I said leagues.
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1st you want me to include Chavis record in DII but
The only reason I would want you to do that is because you said that the numbers that you first came up with months ago included every stop where Chavis had been a DC, and he had been a DC at 2 schools in the 80's before going to Tennessee. I seem to recall even asking you to clarify if those numbers included those stops and you made typical SouthernMan-ish smug replies.
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now you want to EXCLUDE Saban's time in the Big Ten?
It's 2 differet conferences. Don't you think you get a better idea of comparing the numbers for when Saban competes in the same conference as Chavis?
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Give me a break
I'm not giving you anything. I'm still waiting on you to accept my challenge
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You can spin Saban's numbers all you want but the fact is Chavis has had similar success in his respective and comparable career
But, once you do the numbers for just their times in the SEC, when Saban is actually in the same conference with Chavis, things change.
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That was the point and you lost THE real challenge now geaux away
I've argued every challenge you've thrown my way. The numbers may be similar if you count both of Saban's stints at MSU or not, but they favor Saban, based on the math I've done, when you become fair and just tally up just the SEC numbers for both coaches.
You've yet to accept my challenge and I expected that to happen.
This post was edited on 7/15/10 at 12:20 am
Posted on 7/15/10 at 12:39 am to Rocket
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I was honestly talking about conferences when I said leagues
So the Browns and Dolphins are in the SEC (must be in the East) because you specifically mentioned them earlier when you brought up Chavis' DII record.
I never used the DII numbers (or NFL) and as you can see for yourself they are not even listed on the site.
I find it funny that you now want to exclude Saban's time as HC of a Big Ten program where he supposedly earned his reputation (the one that got him hired at LSU, btw) but I guess that's par for the rant.
We can only count the last two years to judge CLM's multi-decade coaching career so why would we use valid scoring data to compare Nick Saban to anybody?
As to your continued (childish) challenge me, challenge me, challenge me crap; you obviously know you didn't anchor the post, which I acknowledged about twenty posts ago. I just said it was funny that both times (banned and anchored) I was clipped by moderators it was just after refuting your post.
Bottom line, you can't refute my point about Chavis without changing the parameters and even then, it still makes my point (I never said Chavis was better, just comparable) that Chavis is one of the best in the business.
Thanks for playing!
Posted on 7/15/10 at 12:50 am to SouthernMan
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So the Browns and Dolphins are in the SEC (must be in the East) because you specifically mentioned them earlier when you brought up Chavis' DII record.
Incorrect. I didn't bother checking your numbers for Saban the first time you gave them months ago. I quickly added up the games you said you counted for Chavis and quickly came to the conclusion that you didn't include his stops before his tenure at UT as DC.
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never used the DII numbers (or NFL) and as you can see for yourself they are not even listed on the site.
You should have clarified that when asked months ago
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find it funny that you now want to exclude Saban's time as HC of a Big Ten program where he supposedly earned his reputation (the one that got him hired at LSU, btw) but I guess that's par for the rant
There's no real point in talking about defenses for two different leagues or conferences. It's much more fair if you just include the numbers from the leaguee they both have competed in. But, I understand why you wouldn't want to exclude those Big 10 numbers because the numbers don't favor Chavis as much.
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As to your continued (childish) challenge me, challenge me, challenge me crap; you obviously know you didn't anchor the post, which I acknowledged about twenty posts ago.
I wanted you to accept the challenge. You wouldn't do it. Par for SouthernMan
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We can only count the last two years to judge CLM's multi-decade coaching career so why would we use valid scoring data to compare Nick Saban to anybody
Says who?
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just said it was funny that both times (banned and anchored) I was clipped by moderators it was just after refuting your post.
Maybe you need to read the rules about calling other posters out
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Bottom line, you can't refute my point about Chavis without changing the parameters and even
I acknowledged the numbers from Saban's stints at MSU, LSU, and Bama may be similar to Chavis' numbers from UT and LSU. But, it's all bullshite to include the numbers from MSU because that's a school in a difference conference.
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it still makes my point (I never said Chavis was better, just comparable) that Chavis is one of the best in the business
But, if you just include Saban's numbers from LSU and Bama and then Chavis' numbers from UT(since 1995) and the past year from LSU which would be the most fair, and the math I've done is correct, then the numbers favor Saban.
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Thanks for playing
It was a blast. I busted up every argument and challenge you made. I never said Chavis was a weak coach.
This post was edited on 7/15/10 at 12:55 am
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