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re: NCAA Infield Fly Rule Question
Posted on 4/10/18 at 6:29 pm to lsufanz
Posted on 4/10/18 at 6:29 pm to lsufanz
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Except that they were awarded the base by the umpire, not advanced when ball dropped.
Did you see a replay where he pointed them to the base to award it to them? On the replay I saw he only pointed at the batter to call him out, and the other runners were very clearly already moving at that point because they thought they were forced.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 11:53 pm to TigerDM
quote:
A bunt is a very gray area.
No it’s not
A bunt cannot be an infield fly. Cut and dry
Posted on 4/11/18 at 10:44 am to lsufanz
For those interested:
Article about the game
Article about the game
quote:
It scored Jax Biggers and Eric Cole, who each singled and moved into scoring position when third base umpire Jeff Head inadvertently allowed runners to advance on a popup bunt attempt by the Razorbacks' three-hole hitter, Casey Martin.
Head ruled that Auburn third baseman Josh Anthony intentionally dropped Martin's bunt, but the runners should have been told to go back to first and second base, said Paul Guilli, the SEC's coordinator of umpires.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 11:18 am to lsufanz
It's only infield fly if it is signaled. Infield fly has to be a routine pop up caught within the vicinity of the infield.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 11:20 am to lsufanz
It doesn't even have to Be in the infield, it can be 20 feet in the outfield. It's a judgment call.
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 11:28 am
Posted on 4/11/18 at 12:13 pm to lsufanz
Not sure why nobody has actually consulted the NCAA Rule Book.
Regardless of what ACTUALLY happened in the game, here are the relevant rules:
(p.22) RULE 2 Definitions
(p.31) Infield Fly
SECTION 48. A fair fly ball (not including a line drive or an attempted bunt) that can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, when first and second or first, second and third bases are occupied before two are out. The pitcher, catcher and any outfielder who is positioned in the infield on the play shall be considered infielders for the purpose of this rule. In the case of a declared infield fly, the ball is live and runners may advance at their own risk. If a declared infield fly becomes a foul ball, it is treated the same as any foul.
Note: If a player intentionally drops a fair ball, the ball remains in play despite the provisions of 7-11-q. The infield fly rule takes precedence.
(p.64) RULE 7 Batting
(p.69) When Batter or Batter-Runner Is Out
SECTION 11. A batter is out when:
(p.71) j. An infield fly is declared (see Rule 2—Infield Fly);
(p.72) q. With fewer than two outs and first, first and second, first and third or first, second and third bases occupied, an infielder intentionally drops a batted or bunted fair fly ball or line drive. The ball is dead, and the runner or runners shall return to their original base or bases;
Note: The batter is not out if the ball drops untouched to the ground, except when the infield fly rule applies. If a declared infield fly is dropped intentionally or allowed to fall untouched, the batter is out, the ball is live and in play, and the runners may advance at their own risk. They do not need to retouch their bases.
(p.73) RULE 8 Base Running
(p.79) When Runners Are Out
SECTION 5. A runner is out when:
(p.81) k. The runner, including a runner in contact with a base, is hit while in fair territory by a batted ball before it has touched a fielder or passed all infielders who have a chance to make a play on the ball, other than the pitcher. If two runners are hit by the same fair ball, only the first runner is out (see 6-2-e).
Note 1 A runner who is touching a base when hit by an infield fly (see Rule 2—Infield Fly), is not out. If the runner is off a base and hit by an infield fly, both the runner and the batter are out; the ball is dead.
Note 2 A runner who, while touching a base, interferes with the fielder attempting to field a batted ball, is not out unless the umpire rules intentional interference. In this case, the batter is out if there are two outs. If there are less than two outs, both the batter and runner are out.
Regardless of what ACTUALLY happened in the game, here are the relevant rules:
(p.22) RULE 2 Definitions
(p.31) Infield Fly
SECTION 48. A fair fly ball (not including a line drive or an attempted bunt) that can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, when first and second or first, second and third bases are occupied before two are out. The pitcher, catcher and any outfielder who is positioned in the infield on the play shall be considered infielders for the purpose of this rule. In the case of a declared infield fly, the ball is live and runners may advance at their own risk. If a declared infield fly becomes a foul ball, it is treated the same as any foul.
Note: If a player intentionally drops a fair ball, the ball remains in play despite the provisions of 7-11-q. The infield fly rule takes precedence.
(p.64) RULE 7 Batting
(p.69) When Batter or Batter-Runner Is Out
SECTION 11. A batter is out when:
(p.71) j. An infield fly is declared (see Rule 2—Infield Fly);
(p.72) q. With fewer than two outs and first, first and second, first and third or first, second and third bases occupied, an infielder intentionally drops a batted or bunted fair fly ball or line drive. The ball is dead, and the runner or runners shall return to their original base or bases;
Note: The batter is not out if the ball drops untouched to the ground, except when the infield fly rule applies. If a declared infield fly is dropped intentionally or allowed to fall untouched, the batter is out, the ball is live and in play, and the runners may advance at their own risk. They do not need to retouch their bases.
(p.73) RULE 8 Base Running
(p.79) When Runners Are Out
SECTION 5. A runner is out when:
(p.81) k. The runner, including a runner in contact with a base, is hit while in fair territory by a batted ball before it has touched a fielder or passed all infielders who have a chance to make a play on the ball, other than the pitcher. If two runners are hit by the same fair ball, only the first runner is out (see 6-2-e).
Note 1 A runner who is touching a base when hit by an infield fly (see Rule 2—Infield Fly), is not out. If the runner is off a base and hit by an infield fly, both the runner and the batter are out; the ball is dead.
Note 2 A runner who, while touching a base, interferes with the fielder attempting to field a batted ball, is not out unless the umpire rules intentional interference. In this case, the batter is out if there are two outs. If there are less than two outs, both the batter and runner are out.
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