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re: My views on Les Miles

Posted on 1/31/10 at 6:19 pm to
Posted by Hair of the Dog
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 6:19 pm to
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I know Miles is not perfect but no coach is. I have critized some of his decisions after games but I also have seen him coach his team to championship seasons. I do think he has the staff and talent in place to have another championship run if things start out positive in 2010. Weather that is a divisional championship, conference championship or national championship depends on how players at critical positions devolop during this offseason. I also see enough negative in the fan base that if things don't start out good, the wheels could come off and the negative feelings of the fans could get inside the locker room. All those that think all this negative does not affect the team are crazy.



If Miles has a season like 07 this year and Michigan offers him their job before the SEC championship game he should take it. The hell with all these negative people. He would be better off. But he probaly won't because he's all about team loyalty.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:28 pm to
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FACT: since the majority of saban's players have been gone Les is 8-8 in the SEC. It is not debatable. Is 8-8 worth 4+ mil a year? Look at what he inherited, and what it has become. That is why the imbecile is under well-deserved scrutiny. If you can't see that, you are a delusional homer.


Fact...Miles has been forced to play inexperienced, rookie QBs two years in a row.

Fact...all the players in 2007, including Sabans recruits, had 3 years under Miles' tutelage.

If you cant see that than your hatred for Miles is blinding you. And i can guarantee you that the coach which you refer to as an "imbecile" knows a hell of a lot more about football than anyone on this board.
This post was edited on 1/31/10 at 7:29 pm
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 8:32 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/31/10 at 8:34 pm
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33374 posts
Posted on 1/31/10 at 8:33 pm to
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Hell, I don't care if my coach is an idiot.


I do.

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The question is, idiot or genius, can he win us another championship? And well... I think it's possible


Hope you are right and I am wrong...I don't think he does at LSU.

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4 losses next year and I'd replace him.


I think he has more than 4 losses next year.
Posted by MC123
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2042 posts
Posted on 1/31/10 at 8:46 pm to
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And i can guarantee you that the coach which you refer to as an "imbecile" knows a hell of a lot more about football than anyone on this board.


That is not saying much.
Posted by Africom
Stuttgart, Germany
Member since Mar 2008
1641 posts
Posted on 1/31/10 at 8:49 pm to
I am giving Miles the benefit of the doubt til next season. Do not believe we need to get back to being Bama's whipping boys like during the Bryant Era. Believe we should always beat then and UF at home. If we get to where we lose to those programs 3 years in a row, then we need to find someone who can get the job done.
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7684 posts
Posted on 1/31/10 at 10:07 pm to
lsu is gonna get bcs n.c. next year b/c of miles' coaching,
but, thank gawd for the ranturds, they will see all the mistakes the coach made and point it out.

the ranturds have already poisoned the water.
it's kinda like why is my opinion not the standard of the rant?
well, it's because this is a board for ranturds.
Posted by LSUownsSEC
OutOfTheArea
Member since May 2008
3178 posts
Posted on 1/31/10 at 11:43 pm to
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22887 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 7:42 am to
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I stand corrected, but the majority of contributing players in 08 and 09 were Miles recruits. I can count about only 10 remaining Saban recruits in 08. Charles Alexander was the last remaining Saban recruit.
Maybe your original post was off statistically, but you were seeing something important. I'll take a stab at wording what I think you and others here were/are seeing.

It was not just that it was Nick Saban's "recruits" who were fading from the team as Miles' tenure grew and his own players began taking the positions.

What was beginning to be missing was the intense and excellent coaching which Saban brought first to the Dinardo recruits, then to his own. It showed up in an intensity of focus and most of the time smart play on LSU's part, which trended upward much of the time. Yes, LSU lost a few in Saban's years that should have been W's. But LSU climbed the ladder from mediocrity to the top on the shoulders of that coaching culture of excellence and dominance.

But Saban left LSU. Fine. Let him go. But as that Saban coached team culture faded, so did Les Miles' 10 win seasons fade. And with it, faded smart play, intensity, dominance, and hardware. The Les Miles culture at LSU now has a lot more in common with the declining Dinardo culture than it does with the Saban culture.
This post was edited on 2/1/10 at 7:44 am
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 7:54 am to
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Fact...Miles has been forced to play inexperienced, rookie QBs two years in a row.


That's his fault. He should have done a better job of recruiting quarterbacks.

You really have to wonder what Miles' thought process was from 2005 until the time he let RP go. If RP was a pain in the arse the whole time, I wonder when Miles started to contemplate releasing RP from the program or if he really thought RP would work out.
Posted by JawjaTigah
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Member since Sep 2003
22887 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 8:01 am to
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He should have done a better job of recruiting quarterbacks.
He also should have done a better job of coaching and developing young quarterbacks. Or seen to it that his assistant coaches were on top of it. He had all of the 08 season to see JL wasn't ready, and did virtually nothing. The 09 season showed that JJ wasn't particularly a new and improved version of himself or JL, and JL wasn't any better either after nearly a whole season of starts the year before.

You ever wonder: How is it that other teams with young QBs manage to develop these players in-season and wind up with amazing (young) QBs, while Les Miles and LSU have highly recruited young QBs and can't develop them a lick?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 8:24 am to
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How is it that other teams with young QBs manage to develop these players in-season and wind up with amazing (young) QBs,


What other teams are you speaking of?
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 8:59 am to
Unfortunately Miles will go 8&4 every yr. & we will be stuck with him forever. U guys are happy with average in the west.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 9:04 am to
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Unfortunately Miles will go 8&4 every yr. & we will be stuck with him forever.


Thank you Nostradamus

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U guys are happy with average in the west.


Ive never heard anyone say that.

Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33196 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 9:14 am to
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Personally I don't care if everyone thinks my coach is an idiot.
You should care. If they think he's an idiot, that means they don't fear or respect him, if they don't fear or respect him, he's probably not a good coach.
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The question is, idiot or genius, can he win us another championship?
"Idiots" generally don't achieve at a high level or win championships. It's why "idiots" aren't routinely hired as head coaches of major football programs. You should never want the coach of your favorite team to be an "idiot".
Posted by JawjaTigah
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Member since Sep 2003
22887 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 9:14 am to
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What other teams are you speaking of?
Well, I remember one freshman QB at UGA during the Dinardo era, Quincy Carter. They came to LSU and he played like a veteran and UGA throttled LSU - this was his freshman year.

I remember a young man named Superman, er... I mean Tim Tebow at UF. He was ready to play as a soph. and won the Heisman Trophy that year. His Jr. and Sr. seasons were stellar as well. Of course, he was Tim Tebow and well, I gotta wonder what Les Miles could have made of him.

There was Archie Manning at Ole Miss, but that was Archie Manning, right? Sure.

Let's go more recent - Matt Leinart at USC started as a soph and USC was a pretty fair team that year. And he won the Heisman as a Jr.

Then there was Vince Young at Texas. Wiki reports of him... As a redshirt sophomore in the 2004 season, Young started every game and led the Longhorns to an 11–1 season record (losing only to rival Oklahoma), a top 5 final ranking, and the school's first-ever appearance and victory in the Rose Bowl, in which they defeated the University of Michigan.

Sure there are plenty of young QBs out there who don't start to show anything, ever. But there are many who become really good, really young. I believe coaching is what makes a QB reach such excellence, unless of course, he is named Tim Tebow or Archie Manning. And LSU hasn't been blessed with the likes of them.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33196 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 9:18 am to
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lsu is gonna get bcs n.c. next year b/c of miles' coaching,


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ranturds,
You could quite possibly be one of the least credible and unsophisticated posters on the board.

quote:

it's kinda like why is my opinion not the standard of the rant?
well, it's because this is a board for ranturds.

Well, you are here posting all of the time so what does that say about you? You constantly call everyone on here who posts a turd, yet you come into every thread and lay a big, pile of stinking shite in every one of them.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33196 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 9:23 am to
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Chill out and enjoy the ride. What happens will happen. We will either win, or we will lose. Miles will either keep his job, or he won't.
This is the equivalent of "watch out, we are being nuked, hide under your desks for protection"!
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 9:45 am to
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Well, I remember one freshman QB at UGA during the Dinardo era, Quincy Carter


9-3

quote:

I remember a young man named Superman, er... I mean Tim Tebow at UF. He was ready to play as a soph. and won the Heisman Trophy that year


8-4
Posted by Tigerdandy
Member since May 2007
726 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 10:06 am to
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Well, I remember one freshman QB at UGA during the Dinardo era, Quincy Carter. They came to LSU and he played like a veteran and UGA throttled LSU


Do you remember Carter was a 22 yr old Fr who played pro baseball before coming to Ga or that Ga won by one pt.
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