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re: Miles Wrong for calling out D. Byrd?

Posted on 11/13/08 at 9:45 am to
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3076 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 9:45 am to
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No I think you're referring to the pass that was thrown as hard as possible in coverage way behind Byrd who did everything he could to catch it as Lee lead him right into a massive collision. That throw


ding ding... we have a winner!!

look back at JL's ints that hit a receiver first. most if not all were bad passes the the receiver was trying to make a play on...
Posted by Stamps
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2006
4496 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 9:45 am to
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Miles Wrong for calling out D. Byrd?

Screw that. I think its about time to start calling out Miles. I have never seen a team so unprepared in my life. Week in and week out we are seeing the same problems over and over again. The defense looks unprepared, in the wrong place, and confused. The offense is having the same problems again and again. They have had horrible and extremly predictable play calling at times. Every week it is the same old same old. That pass was way behind Demetrius Byrd. As he was bringing it in, a helmet crashed into his hand, causing his injury. Jarrett Lee couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. The kid is scared to get hit and has no confidence or leadership skills whatsoever. If you are going to call out Demetrius Byrd for that, then you definitely need to call out Chris Mitchell for his missed opportunity. You also need to call out Jarrett Lee for his horrendous performance. Miles needs to "think again" before calling out one of his Seniors/team leaders.
This post was edited on 11/13/08 at 9:49 am
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16680 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 9:46 am to
anyone have a still picture frame of it or a video clip? i want to see exactly if it was behind him or what.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46049 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 9:49 am to
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The defense looks unprepared, in the wrong place, and confused.


Not against Bama.....

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The offense is having the same problems again and again. They have had horrible and extremly predictable play calling at times.


Freshman QB.....

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The kid is scared to get hit and has no confidence or leadership skills whatsoever.


Agree....but he IS a freshman.

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Miles needs to "think again" before calling out one of his Seniors/team leaders.


He is the head coach.......he can call out whomever the hell he wants. Byrd can handle it!
Posted by Stamps
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2006
4496 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 9:53 am to
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Not against Bama.....

One freaking game. Bama is not known for their high, explosive offense and Bama still put up some big numbers on us.

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Freshman QB.....

Tell that to OU and UT when McCoy and Bradford were freshman. "Coach" him to get better, not make the same mistakes, etc...

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Agree....but he IS a freshman.

What does being a freshman have to do with being scared to take a hit?

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He is the head coach.......he can call out whomever the hell he wants. Byrd can handle it!

That's fine. If you can call out one, you can call out all of them. Not one player is above or below the team.
This post was edited on 11/13/08 at 9:54 am
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46049 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 9:57 am to
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Bama is not known for their high, explosive offense and Bama still put up some big numbers on us.


They are undefeated....and beatdown UGA which handed us our azz. It's an improvement.

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Tell that to OU and UT when McCoy and Bradford were freshman.


Go back and look how many INT's McCoy has had before this year and come back and tell us.

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What does being a freshman have to do with being scared to take a hit?


I said I agree on the taking a hit part.....leadership doesn't come as easy for a young guy like Lee.

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That's fine. If you can call out one, you can call out all of them. Not one player is above or below the team.


He has called out others as well.....Byrd has just been pouting a bit more than normal. He needs his azz chewed a bit.

Posted by Stamps
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2006
4496 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:05 am to
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They are undefeated....and beatdown UGA which handed us our azz. It's an improvement.

They are undefeated due to their great defense. UGA is an "okay" team, nothing more or less. They still kicked our arse like it was their job. You cannot be happy with our defense at this point. Last year we were statistically one of the best. Now, we are in the 60-70 rank. That is not an improvement. I guarantee you Ole Miss will put up some serious yards/points.

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Go back and look how many INT's McCoy has had before this year and come back and tell us.

I was talking about Bradford/McCoy's freshman season....
Passing
Season Team GP Rating Att Comp Pct Yds TD INT
2006 Texas 13 161.8 318 217 68.2 2570 29 7

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leadership doesn't come as easy for a young guy like Lee.

Tebow easily had it his freshman year. Face it, Lee doesn't have it. You cannot teach confidence/leadership. Lee has played @ Auburn, @ UF, @ South Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama. If he hasn't gotten comfortable yet, he'll never get it.

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Byrd has just been pouting a bit more than normal. He needs his azz chewed a bit.


I disagree, but that is just your personal opinion. I think the coaching staff needs their arse chewed out a bit. Hey, we praise them when they do well..no reason why they can't take some heat when they aren't.
Posted by the1stud
BFE
Member since May 2006
76 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:08 am to
McCoy and Bradford were not very good their freshmen yr. Hell, Stafford @ UGA was booed as a freshman; now he is a first round draft pick. It takes time. As far as calling out Byrd, maybe, just maybe Miles is trying to motivate him?
BTW there is no senior leadership on this team. NONE. That is part of our problem. Does anyone go to JL and tell him forget about it and make the next play? I'm not saying to tell him that it's OK, but just to pump him up and keep his confidence.
Posted by Stamps
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2006
4496 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:09 am to
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McCoy and Bradford were not very good their freshmen yr.


W-H-A-T!!!???!!!
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
6287 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:20 am to
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D. Byrd makes that catch 9 times out of 10


IMO If he makes that catch 9 out of 10 times then it wasn't a bad pass. I was in the SEZ so I didn't have the best view and I haven't seen a replay but it looked like he definitely should have caught that ball. It wasn't a perfect pass by any means but it was definitely catchable, especially for our Senior #1 reciever.
Also, as my brother pointed out to me, the defender was in front of D. Byrd so if that ball were thrown in front of him it could have easily been intercepted. At least Lee placed the ball where the defender(s) couldn't catch it (without being tipped by D. Byrd).
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:21 am to
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#1 reciever.


Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
6287 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:30 am to
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the pass that was thrown as hard as possible in coverage way behind Byrd....

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Lee lead him right into a massive collision


So which was it, did Lee "lead him" or throw "way behind him" on that play?
Posted by City
Member since Jul 2005
1233 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:30 am to
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McCoy and Bradford were not very good their freshmen yr.


If they didn't match up to your standards for a freshman QB then JLee doesn't even come close...
Posted by TIGER PASS
WEST MONROE
Member since May 2006
706 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:40 am to
Byrd was probably like the rest of us, shocked that Lee actully got the ball to an LSU receiver.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
33139 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:43 am to
it's the Senior and Junior receiver's responsibility to bail out a struggling freshman QB.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:44 am to
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I was talking about Bradford/McCoy's freshman season....


so what about McCoy last year? was he not coached well enough?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:45 am to
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The defense looks unprepared, in the wrong place, and confused.


they've already fixed this problem
Posted by jwill37
The Chuck
Member since Jan 2007
1383 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:52 am to
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So which was it, did Lee "lead him" or throw "way behind him" on that play?


It is possible to throw a ball behind your receiver and still lead him into death. You're an idiot if you think that was a decent throw. I watched it again Sunday night on Cox and that throw was garbage. He threw it behind Byrd where he had to spin around as he was trying to catch the ball between defenders with a linebacker or safety about to crush him. Come on man let's be realistic here. I'm not a Lee basher. He is a young QB and will make freshman mistakes. What is a concern is the fact that we've seen no improvement over the course of the season. He is obviously terrified of getting hit as he throws terribly with no pressure on him. What chaps my a** even more is the fact that Miles burned Jefferson's redshirt and didn't even use him. If Jefferson is incapable of running 10 plays for this offense then that's the coach's fault. And why would you burn his redshirt to use him with 3 minutes left against Tulane just to run the ball. Stupid. And let's be honest here, Jefferson could not have done worse than Lee did against Bama last Saturday.
Posted by PokerPlayingTiger
Member since Jan 2007
2745 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:52 am to
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You mean the pass that hit Byrd right in the numbers that he bobbled until it was intercepted?


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the ball hit him in a bad spot. his hands.


Are y'all smoking crack? The ball was thown late, behind Byrd, and into heavy traffic. Byrd tried to make a nice spinning catch on a ball that was behind him and got clocked and the ball went up in the air. You cannot blame Byrd for that. I am not a fan of a coach calling out a kid on the college level. If he did it because he wanted to take pressure off Lee knowing that Byrd should be able to handle it as a senior then so be it. But I still didn't like to see it.
Posted by City
Member since Jul 2005
1233 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:55 am to
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they've already fixed this problem


I admire your optimism and hope you're right. However, for me, one decent defensive game adrift in a sea of shitty defensive games just isn't enough to restore confidence.
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