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re: Miles' general thoughts on the season...

Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:21 pm to
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most of the accomplishments you posted were 05,06,07. Heavy influences from Satan and Jimbo


Heavy??? Look, I am thankful to Nick for his yrs. here, but the guy kicked LSU to the curb in 04 and he gets little credit for the on field actions by LSU football 1, 2,or 3 yrs after he removed himself from the program.

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Since 08 the past 8 years LSU had a good offense


Even taking away those yrs., there are only a handful of power 5 programs with better winning results than LSU and only 1 in the SEC.

LSU has the # 10 rush O in the nation and #1 in the SEC. I believe your problem is with our passing game.

Interesting, to me at lease, is that Bama gained 3 more yds a game than we did.


Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31159 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:22 pm to
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a 3 loss program.


does not exist. there is no such thing as a "3 loss program".
that's just loser speak.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:32 pm to
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You make me laugh at how utterly STUPID you are.... Talk all you want... You say the same shite all the time and it gets you nowhere... I have NEVER disputed ANY facts you have posted here... I am NOT your enemy... I am just trying to get you to see the light... There is more to football than just #'s... 


Little momma ' s boy, you're the laughing stock of this site. I know there is more to football than #'s and have never said otherwise, but when it comes to a measuring a coach's tenure their is nothing more important that wins and losses. No one will care or remember that our offense sucked after Mikes is gone. Coaches are measured by wins and losses and titles of which Miles has both.

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And you keep talking about the FACT that LSU went 5-3 in the SEC this year... OH BOY!!!


I bring this up solely in response to posts saying we are getting worse each year in the sec because FACTS prove that statement to be bullshite. I'm not some dumbass that agrees with statements that are totally false. I don't care how many times I get called an idiot for posting FACTS.
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I notice you don't want to talk much about how we were abused by those three teams and barely beat a shitty A & M team.This team has underachieved the last two years.. THOSE ARE FACTS........... 

Actually that's an opinion. That's where you get called an idiot. The above statement of yours is an opinion. What's not an opinion is we have a chance at a top 15 finish. Who expected lsu to go good last year when we were starting the second most freshman in the country? Only football idiots.
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remember Bill Walsh for the NEW offense he created that changed the NFL more than his overall record... Sure he won 3 sb's...


No one would give a shite about the west coast offense if it wasn't backed up by wins. You act like the wins didn't give validity to that offense. Want to guess why more teams don't run a west coast offense right now?

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One LSU was lucky to get into, 


Do you apply this same reasoning to Saban and Meyer? MEYER backed into everyone of his titles and Saban has 1 title that he didn't have to back into. Unless you start the season ranked 1 or 2 and run the table you got lucky to get into the game. I love how you blast Miles for only having the best sec season in lsu history. We lost to bama. Get over it. Losing in a title games isn't some black mark on a coaches resume. It's amazing how much you move goal posts for Saban when he was here and you blast Miles for the same things.
Yesterday you said Saban only made 2 mistakes wheb he was here and he lost more games during his tenure than Miles has in the last 5 year.
This post was edited on 12/27/15 at 1:43 pm
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:36 pm to
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We lost to bama. Get over it. Losing in a title games isn't some black mark on a coaches resume.


it is if you look like a brainless idiot in doing so.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:36 pm to
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does not exist. there is no such thing as a "3 loss program". 
that's just loser spea


It's actually factual. Miles inherited a program that had lost less than 3 games once in the last 5 years. I'm sorry that fact doesn't back up your opinion that Miles was given a top 5 program.

98-7 losses
99-8 losses
2000-4 losses
01-3 losses ( it's a shame Miles can't coach in a sec where 3 conference losses will win the west)
02-5 losses
01-1 loss
04-3 losses



So tell me again how Miles inherited this juggernaut program.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:37 pm to
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I believe your problem is with our passing game.



is that what they are calling it now? I thought we were still referring to it as roadkill.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:40 pm to
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is if you look like a brainless idiot in doing so.



No its doesn't. Making a national title game and losing is better than not making the national title game. You have poster on here saying losing to bama was worse than losing to UAB. I guess Kelly,Spurrier,Jimbo,Stoops all have huge black marks because they lost worse than lsu did in title games.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:41 pm to
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that what they are calling it now? I thought we were still referring to it as roadkill.


What do you see has our problem in the passing game?
What do you see in games that you would do different?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:45 pm to
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I notice you don't want to talk much about how we were abused by those three teams and barely beat a shitty A & M team.This team has underachieved the last two years.. THOSE ARE FACTS...........




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Actually that's an opinion


So losing to Bama and Arkie and Ole Miss is an opinion?????



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What's not an opinion is we have a chance at a top 15 finish.



Yes that is an opinion...



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Losing in a title games isn't some black mark on a coaches resume


Sorry Charlie, But it is on Miles............


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I love how you blast Miles for only having the best sec season in lsu history.



Prove to me where I have blasted Miles for this..... It was the best regular season in LSU history.. I have said this numorous times...



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It's amazing how much you move goal posts for Saban when he was here


He was a pretty good coach while he was here....



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and you blast Miles for the same things.


AGAIN... I have blasted Miles for the talent he has wasted on offense the last two years... I don't care what he did 10 years ago... He has coached some great teams at LSU... No denying this... But the last couple years[which are all that really matter] LU has underachieved... AND its NO lock LSU finishes in the top 15 even with a win.....
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:46 pm to
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LSU has the # 10 rush O in the nation and #1 in the SEC. I believe your problem is with our passing game. 



We are top 30 in yards per play and points per play. You can shite on our passing efficiency but our offense looked good in all but 2 games. We had 508 yards against Ole miss
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:48 pm to
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We had 508 yards against Ole miss


That means NOTHING when you lose by 21..... FACT. And LSU has some good #'s but they are tainted by LF's long runs against some shitty D's...
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:49 pm to
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No its doesn't. Making a national title game and losing is better than not making the national title game. You have poster on here saying losing to bama was worse than losing to UAB. I guess Kelly,Spurrier,Jimbo,Stoops all have huge black marks because they lost worse than lsu did in title games.



These coaches didnt look completely overmatched though on the big stage. If we would have at least scored anything/crossed midfield/switched QBs...something to try and stem the flow, Miles would have come out of that game with some dignity in tact and more of the fan base still supporting him to some degree.

He basically looked similar in the 3 losses this year......deer in the headlights....no answer to what was transpiring in the game. Arky was toying with us for gods sake in our own stadium at night. Inexcusable.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:55 pm to
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So losing to Bama and Arkie and Ole Miss is an opinion????? 



That's not what I responded too. Saying we are getting worse in conf is an opinion not backed up by facts.
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Yes that is an opinion... 



It's actually not. We , in fact, do have a chance at a top 15 finish. Saying we DON'T HAVE a chance is an opinion.
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Sorry Charlie, But it is on Miles............ 


It's not as good as winning the game but making the national title game and losing is a better season than all but 1 program in cfb. Are you seriously saying a ##2 finish is a black mark?
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He was a pretty good coach while he was her


His tenure was worse than the last 5 year of Miles, which yoh love to gripe about,in wins and losses. His first 3 years he lost 12 games and you said he made on 2 mistakes while at lsu. Saban walked into a program littered with future nfl players and lost 12 games his first 3 years.

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AGAIN... I have blasted Miles for the talent he has wasted on offense the last two years.


So you blast him for not having a good offense when our offense was starting the most true freshmen in all of cfb? Last year we didn't have 1 offensive skill position starter with more than 2 games started in their career.
You can't bitch about offense this year except for 2 games. We are ranked 25th in offensive yards per play and 30th in offensive points per play. That ole miss game you love to bring up, yeah we had 508 yards of offense.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:58 pm to
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What do you see has our problem in the passing game?
What do you see in games that you would do different?




We have the talent at WR.
We have the talent at QB...yes..Harris is talented but that talent has yet to be harnessed by the coaching staff....and the kids only been here for what 2+ years..I mean come on!!!!!

I believe the disconnect is with the type of passing patterns we run. We seem to throw deep or not at all. Very little in the way of throwing to the flats...we rarely throw slants or work the middle of the field with the TEs...most of our attempts at screens result in the ball being thrown behind the back or at his feet....hell we dont even try those stupid bubble screens anymore. I dont know if the coaching staff doesn't trust harris or doesnt trust the receivers but whatever it is has resulted in a "see spot run" mentality with our passing game that is very easy to dissect and defend.
This post was edited on 12/27/15 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 2:02 pm to
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These coaches didnt look completely overmatched though on the big stage. I


Wow you really don't follow cfb do you?

Kelly was down 35-0 at halftime of the title game.
Stoops was down 48-10 to start the 4th quarter of his title game.
Spurrier was down 49-10 midway through the 4th quarter.


But yeah our 15 point deficit going into the 4th was worse.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 2:05 pm to
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. If we would have at least scored anything/crossed midfield/switched QBs...something to try and stem the flow, Miles would have come out of that game with some dignity in tact and more of the fan base still supporting him to some degree.



In Rickys mind this is NOT a fact and doesn't count.......



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He basically looked similar in the 3 losses this year......deer in the headlights....no answer to what was transpiring in the game. Arky was toying with us for gods sake in our own stadium at night. Inexcusable



Now THIS IS A FACT...
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48858 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 2:07 pm to
I am 100% pro Miles. I love the guy.

If things don't change I'll be ready for a new coach.
But I wont crap on him ever.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 2:10 pm to
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yes..Harris is talented but that talent has yet to be harnessed by the coaching staff....and the kids only been here for what 2+ years..I mean come on!!!!! 


Where do you see this talent? His deep ball is the only thing he has shown that is above average.
His accuracy on short to intermediate throws isn't good.
His footwork in the pocket isn't good.
His ability to keep his eyes down field once his pocket gets muddy isn't good.
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believe the disconnect is with the type of passing patterns we run. We seem to throw deep or not at all. 

The passing plays that are called in the game are the plays that the offensive has ran successfully in practice. I'm sure the coaches have realized that Harris' deep ball is really great and his timing routes arent. If you were a coach and knew your qb had a great deep ball and a poor intermediate ball, which play would you call?
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we rarely throw slants or work the middle of the field with the TEs...most of our attempts at screens result in the ball being thrown behind the back or at his feet..


Because these are timing routes that have to be thrown even of the wrs doesn't look open. Clearly Harris doesn't trust himself and neither do the coaches. Most of the screens and flare outs have been off target.
It's hard to keep calling these type of plays wheb your qb is getting your skill position players lit up.
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. I dont know if the coaching staff doesn't trust harris or doesnt trust the receivers but whatever it is has resulted in a "see spot run" mentality with our passing game that is very easy to dissect and defend. 


What it is is that our coaches know the strengths and weaknesses of the players more than we do. They don't call short or intermediate passing plays because our offense doesn't execute them well in practice. The reason they call plays with longer passing routes is for 2 reasons. Harris has a really good deep ball and it runs defenders away from the LOS and takes away defenders if Harris tucks and runs.
Now Harris' inability to complete simple timing routes is all on the coaches
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 2:11 pm to
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If things don't change I'll be ready for a new coach.


We will know by mid season
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 2:12 pm to
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In Rickys mind this is NOT a fact and doesn't count...


The facts that you think this statement is a fact shows your ignorance.
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If we would have at least scored anything/crossed midfield/switched QBs...something to try and stem the flow, Miles would have come out of that game with some dignity in tact and more of the fan base still supporting him to some degree.



The above statement is an opinion of the poster making the post. It contains no facts. It's like I'm talking to a 3rd grade
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