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re: LSU's Resume vs. St John's Resume
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:44 pm to OPR
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:44 pm to OPR
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What you want is for the committee to rank all the DI teams, and then take the top 64, regardless of conference. Which would cause more than a few conferences to be completely left out of the tourney, but the ACTUAL, REAL top 64 teams would be in.
yes. eliminate automatic bids. seton hall being in the NCAA tournament is insanity on every possible level
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Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:45 pm to CerealKilla
First off, LSU should have been chosen over St. John's but I understand the selection committees thinking. They are under no obligation to LSU. They pretty much blew and didn't make their conference tourney. They did sweep Fullerton early, then fell off the map for good. Finished strong against weak competition.
On the other hand, we have St. Johns. Came in second in its conference, it won 30 games, is in a top tier market, we want to expand our exposure in that NY market...Neither will host a regional so the home attendence money will are kind of a moot point. Why not St. Johns? There seems to be more positives long-run choosing St. Johns than LSU.
On the other hand, we have St. Johns. Came in second in its conference, it won 30 games, is in a top tier market, we want to expand our exposure in that NY market...Neither will host a regional so the home attendence money will are kind of a moot point. Why not St. Johns? There seems to be more positives long-run choosing St. Johns than LSU.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:46 pm to CerealKilla
LSU went 13-17 in the SEC with 6 of those wins coming at home over the two WORST SEC teams i have seen come into the Box in decades .. LSU went 4-11 on the road in the SEC and 8-11 on the road overall ... LSU didn't deserve to go to the NCAA tournament this year .. plain and simple .. deal with it and let's move on to next season ...
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:49 pm to TigahRag
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LSU went 13-17 in the SEC with 6 of those wins coming at home over the two WORST SEC teams i have seen come into the Box in decades .. LSU went 4-11 on the road in the SEC and 8-11 on the road overall ... LSU didn't deserve to go to the NCAA tournament this year .. plain and simple .. deal with it and let's move on to next season ...
Why does St. John get picked over LSU based on this?
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:50 pm to TigahRag
there are plenty of teams not deserving of going who are going
there are plenty of teams even less deserving than lsu
no one is arguing that lsu was a baseball superpower this year. they still should have been in the tournament
there are plenty of teams even less deserving than lsu
no one is arguing that lsu was a baseball superpower this year. they still should have been in the tournament
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:50 pm to CerealKilla
quote:they won't answer
Why does St. John get picked over LSU based on this?
they'll just respond with the same tired "we weren't good and didn't deserve it" garbage
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:52 pm to Louie T
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they'll just respond with the same tired "we weren't good and didn't deserve it" garbage
Do you disagree?
Do you think LSU was good enough to be in the tourney, regardless of who else is in?
Hell no, LSU wasn't.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
that's your opinion
in my opinion: we weren't good, but we still deserve to be in the tournament
in my opinion: we weren't good, but we still deserve to be in the tournament
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:53 pm to CerealKilla
because they went 11-2 in their horribly weak conference, but they did go 11-2 and got the job done .. they won road games and at the end of the day obviously impressed the committee more than we did ... i've been a season ticket holder for 20 years and i am as pissed as anyone in this season .. but i am also a realist and the team that i watched play baseball at the box from the saturday florida game onward didn't deserve to go the NCAA tourney ... like SFP said earlier, the NCAA is trying to give the field variety obviously ... and let's be serious here .. no one here would be their house that LSU would beat st. john's in a three-game series on a neutral field either ..
This post was edited on 5/30/11 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:54 pm to Cajun Revolution
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won 30 games
LSU won more against better competition.
quote:and how many New Yorkers will watch St. Johns over the Yankees or Mets this weekend?
in a top tier market
quote:I think LSU would have brought more fans to the game than St. Johns.
Neither will host
quote:besides LSU having a better winning percentage against better competition, nothing.
Why not St. Johns?
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:54 pm to Louie T
I gave you the thought process. The value of LSU as a 3/4 is limited. St. John's media market and NCAA goals seems to be more valuable in their eyes.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:55 pm to Cajun Revolution
the better team shouldn't get assraped by the committee pushing their agenda
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:55 pm to CerealKilla
You're swinging at air. Nobody is fighting you. I just gave you their thought process. They aren't forced to pick LSU and outside Baton Rouge, nobody is going...well shite, LSU got completely snubbed.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:56 pm to Louie T
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in my opinion: we weren't good, but we still deserve to be in the tournament
based on what? LSU didn't even make their OWN conference tournament.
Why do you think we deserved to be in the tourney?
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:58 pm to CerealKilla
college baseball has horrible national ratings for even the college world series, so the media market argument is incredibly moot ...
as far as the winning record goes, look at who we feasted on non-conference at home early on ... no one seems to want to discuss one of the things the committee member mentioned as reasons we didn't get in ... the fact that we only played one road non-conference game before SEC play and that we had very few quality road wins ...
one of the IMMEDIATE improvements maineri needs to make is the non-conference schedule before SEC play .. at least one quality home and one quality road series ..
as far as the winning record goes, look at who we feasted on non-conference at home early on ... no one seems to want to discuss one of the things the committee member mentioned as reasons we didn't get in ... the fact that we only played one road non-conference game before SEC play and that we had very few quality road wins ...
one of the IMMEDIATE improvements maineri needs to make is the non-conference schedule before SEC play .. at least one quality home and one quality road series ..
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:58 pm to TigahRag
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they won road games
They were 11-15 on the road. Their signature win all season was taking one game from Georgia Tech. They really took care of business.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
the committee has overlooked that before for much worse teams
the tournament should include roughly the top 64 teams
our rpi being in the 20s shows that we are well within being in the top 64 teams
the tournament should include roughly the top 64 teams
our rpi being in the 20s shows that we are well within being in the top 64 teams
Posted on 5/30/11 at 2:00 pm to Louie T
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the better team shouldn't get assraped by the committee pushing their agenda
Conspiracy theories are ridiculous. What agenda are they pushing exactly?
No one is arguing that head to head, St Johns would beat LSU. LSU is definitely a better skilled, better quality, better coached baseball team. The problem is that the committee is expected to place representatives from each conference in the tourney.
Instead of railing against some imaginary LSU conspiracy by people you don't know, why not rail against the selection criteria and vote for a straight up, top 64 ranking and tourney slotting.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 2:01 pm to CerealKilla
dude, get the frick over it for Christ's sake .. we don't belong in the NCAA tournament in the eyes of the ones that it matters to the most ... if we squeaked into this field this year there is a really good chance the off season moves that need to be made and now will be made get done .. sorry, i will trade a nice overhaul and a return to omaha in the next few seasons over a two and BBQ at a western regional ..
Posted on 5/30/11 at 2:02 pm to TigahRag
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as far as the winning record goes, look at who we feasted on non-conference at home early on ... no one seems to want to discuss one of the things the committee member mentioned as reasons we didn't get in ... the fact that we only played one road non-conference game before SEC play and that we had very few quality road wins
We have a better OOC SoS than St. Johns.
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one of the IMMEDIATE improvements maineri needs to make is the non-conference schedule before SEC play .. at least one quality home and one quality road series ..
See above comment. 33rd SoS is pretty strong, imo
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