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re: LSU vs. Nebraska 1971 Orange Bowl

Posted on 7/10/12 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by 805tiger
Member since Oct 2011
4510 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 4:59 pm to
The second to last all-white LSU football team...
Posted by miketiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
1674 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 5:00 pm to
If I remember right, LSU was down 10 to 0 in the first quarter and fought back to lead 12 to 10 in the fourth. My parents went to that game with Skipper Heard the former AD at LSU.
Posted by Roll JaMarcus Roll
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
107 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 5:00 pm to
Can someone make this a gif for future generations?
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 5:09 pm to
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"LOL".
And in the 108 years "between 1893 and 2000" -
"""""""""""""""" B E F O R E """""""""""""""
Saban came to Baton Rouge, LSU was ranked as the #12 winningest team in college football history, and #9 in bowl appearances.
Guess what? """"""" A F T E R""""""" 2000 and
indeed, after 2011, LSU is STILL ranked as the #12 winningest team in cfb history, and #8 in bowl appearances. So your "LOL" retort didn't really accomplish what you wanted...


Errr, math must not be your strong suit. Ten years worth of winning isn't going to significantly alter rankings based on one-hundred and twenty years of data, no matter how dominant that ten year period is. (It's the equivalent of going 50 MPH for 59m 30s, then accelerating to 100 MPH for 30s. Your average speed is going to much closer to 50 MPH than 100 MPH over the entire hour, simply because of weighting.)

Here is the bottom line. Post-Saban (2000) LSU has won twice as many national national championships (2) as it did in the entire remainder of its history (1)(unless you want to recognize the controversial 1908 championship, in which case LSU over the last ten years equalled the number of NC's it garnered in the previous 110 years...not much better for whatever strange case you are making). Post-Saban LSU has won as many SEC titles (4) as it did in the previous thirty eight years. Post-Saban LSU has won as many Suger Bowls (3) as it did in the entire remainder of its program history! (And I'm not even counting the 2007 NCG, which technically wasn't the Sugar Bowl). The last twelve years have been LSU's best continuous stretch of football by a fairly wide margin. This shouldn't be controversial. It's obvious that LSU has been a much more "relevant" national title contender since 2000 than in previous eras. Why are we even arguing about this?
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 5:19 pm to
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Interesting ... I thought LSU wasn't "relevant" until Saban arrived? Two Orange Bowls in the 70s; Orange Bowl and two Sugar Bowls in 80s. Numerous other bowl appearances. Facts are a stubborn thing.


most young people think the world started when they were born. LSU always had a competitive football team and many times had a great team. cholly mac was a good enough coach to win it all he just didn't recruit; he let lsu recruit itself. if he and his staff had done what miles and co. do, he probably would have won more than one. he was known as the I 10 recruiter; pensacola to houston and only the catholic schools in new orleans.
Posted by bdnc
Member since Dec 2011
939 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 5:20 pm to
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Yes Arthur Davis


definately remember, john ferguson calling his name. Was too young to go to the games living in NO. We listened to those games with our ears glued to the radio like we were hearing of war. They had such defenses. Ferguson would either say “no gain” or "spilled behind the line.” Had they had a better weight training program they would have been National Champs both in ’69 and ’70.
Posted by LSU92
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
2435 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 5:47 pm to
The traditional uniforms of both teams look great. Jim Simpson, the announcer, is great. It beats the hell out of Herbie, Brent, and the rest of the current windbags.

It's crazy to watch a game without the score, time and crawl on the screen.
Posted by bdnc
Member since Dec 2011
939 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 5:57 pm to
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The traditional uniforms of both teams look great


Kinda wish instead of wearing the purple jersey for homecoming or whatever they would wear these more simplistic uniforms, number on the helmet and no names on the jerseys / it’s not much different and that’s all the more reason to show it off instead of the purple jersey that has no connection to the past and little meaning.

quote:

Jim Simpson, the announcer, is great.


Simpson was one of the better ones of his time
Posted by LSU92
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
2435 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 6:01 pm to
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Simpson was one of the better ones of his time


Simpson was also the announcer on the ESPn broadcast of the 79 USC V LSU game.
Posted by bdnc
Member since Dec 2011
939 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 6:11 pm to
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purple jersey that has no connection to the past and little meaning.


sorry to Hodson, Davis, Caston, and co. / they had some very good teams when we were forced to wear the purple, so there is some connection to those teams, then the magic wore off and the bad memories of the 90s were ushered in, still stuck with the purple

nevertheless, the purple reminds when the Gestapo forced that insipid rule
Posted by brickman
mandeville,la.
Member since Apr 2009
294 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 6:13 pm to
Telling my age but i was at that game.Bought my tix from someone in the new orleans newspaper and they were in the neb sec.There was a lot of racial unrest in miami that year due to a cuban decent cop shooting a black youth a few weeks before the game so there was a bad turnout for the game.best halftime show i have ever seen.Neb was loaded with all americans like dave remington and mike rozier.We played tough but our depth was not up to theres
Posted by LSU92
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
2435 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 6:19 pm to
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loaded with all americans like dave remington and mike rozier.We played tough but our depth was not up to theres


That was the 1982 season (New Yrars Day 1983). Another crushing loss against the big boys of the day. As someone mentioned earlier, Dardar kicked Remington's butt that night.
Posted by willeteal
Texarkana
Member since Aug 2010
2245 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 6:29 pm to

It's funny. The LSU fans who were watching this game would be sort of like fans today who remember seeing a game in 2000.

This was only 12 years after the '58 team.

You don't see game today where they start the broadcast off by introducing the ref crew and the time keeper. Especially not the timekeeper.

Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41813 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 6:56 pm to
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Post-Saban LSU has won as many SEC titles (4) as it did in the previous thirty eight years. Post-Saban LSU has won as many Suger Bowls (3) as it did in the entire remainder of its program history! (And I'm not even counting the 2007 NCG, which technically wasn't the Sugar Bowl). The last twelve years have been LSU's best continuous stretch of football by a fairly wide margin. This shouldn't be controversial. It's obvious that LSU has been a much more "relevant" national title contender since 2000 than in previous eras. Why are we even arguing about this?


Saban brought us a NC.......this is Miles' team now

Move on.....
Posted by msbargas
Ponte vedra beach FL
Member since Sep 2009
727 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 7:21 pm to
That 1970-71 Lsu team was one of the most underappreciated teams ever. I remember watching them in that 61-17 blowout of Ole Miss when Tommy Casanova ran wild. That team got off to a bad start unexpectedly losing to a mediocre Texas A & M team in the opener, losing a heartbreaker to #2 Notre Dame 0-3 and then that fierce battle with Nebrasca which was #3 and then moved up to #1. A total of 3 losses which they easily could have won.
Such a season was somewhat typical of Cholly Mac, always able to compete at the highest level against the best teams in the nation, but usually not having luck go his way as it frequently does for Miles.
This post was edited on 7/10/12 at 7:33 pm
Posted by DaSaltyTiger
Alexandria/Pineville, LA area
Member since Dec 2004
4689 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 7:23 pm to
Jones did change the play. It marked the beginning of a strained relationship between Jones and Mac
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 7:27 pm to
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Amazing that their defensive ends were 190 bls and 200 lbs?


I'm related to a DE from LSU's 1971 team- and he was smaller than that haha!
LSU led the nation in rushing defense for a number of years during this time with small defensive players. They were always in the right place though. Their scoring defense was crazy even for back then
Posted by bishop
Maiden, North Carolina
Member since Jun 2004
2371 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 7:39 pm to
I believe the starting QB died unexpectedly the summer before. The loss to A&M was a last minute loss with a hail mary type of pass.

ND game was great. I got the Coach's Film from Notre Dame and watching those two teams play was pretty remarkable.

The 69 - 70 defenses were asolutely awesome. One of those years either 69 or 70, other teams averaged 68 yards per game rushing against LSU. That is sick especially in the era of how much teams ran the ball.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
6901 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 7:53 pm to
I was at the game a decade later than Nebraska won 21-20 I believe. Great game even though we lost...
Posted by Tiger 10S
Member since Jan 2007
175 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 7:53 pm to
Notice that at the end of the first half, the Tigers ran under the goal posts and then had to turn to the left to go to the locker room. In the Mac era, the team ALWAYS entered and exited the field under the goalposts (as it always does at home).
I wish this tradition would continue, but we do not do it any more on the road.
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