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re: LSU Football Practice Thursday: AM Session

Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by lurker124
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:46 pm to
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How has Bower looked so far in camp ?


Lazare said he's been the most advanced in the afternoon group...TIFWIW
Posted by MarcoPolo
Member since May 2013
1340 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:56 pm to
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How about that bubble screen pass that goes past the line of scrimmage.

Im no coach but it looks like a pick 6 waiting to happen..
Posted by inthebr
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
877 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:05 pm to
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Jamal Adams


Was really quick off of the whistle. I've been very impressed by every clip that has shown him so far.

quote:

Im no coach but it looks like a pick 6 waiting to happen..


Against bump-and-run, yes. Against any cushion that play will be money with the athletes LSU has on the edges.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 2:10 pm
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
15464 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:08 pm to
JA is gonna be a stud and see pt this year
Posted by Signal Soldier
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:12 pm to


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Fantastic Four producers Simon Kinberg and Hutch Parker stopped by LSU practice the other day. Do you think coach Miles pitched them some good movie ideas?
Posted by LSUTil_iDie
Lawrenceville, GA
Member since Jan 2012
5511 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:16 pm to
If it's not executed right it will be. The fake and the timing have to be damn near perfect.
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:24 pm to
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Im no coach but it looks like a pick 6 waiting to happen..
That pass option is predicated on how the defense reacts and in this case how the DB reacts to the QB keeping the ball when running a zone read.
Posted by Rotiger
Roanoke, Tx
Member since Aug 2006
460 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:30 pm to
Nothing could be further from truth. This is a drill that should be won by the defense for these reasons:
1. There's no guesswork as to what kind of block is coming.
2. The Defense knows the snap count(they won't in a game or scrimmage.)
3. The defensive player is right up on the line of scrimmage as to thwart momentum from the offensive player (they won't be allowed to be right upon the offensive player in game or scrimmage).

Make no mistake about it, it is a defensive drill. If a defensive player is getting beat in this drill it is troubling.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13866 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:46 pm to
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Make no mistake about it, it is a defensive drill. If a defensive player is getting beat in this drill it is troubling.

It is not a defensive drill. It's a drill to teach leverage. If you notice, usually the one who gets their hands inside wins. That's what the drill is designed to teach. Weight, explosiveness, how low their hips are, and pure strength are all factors in who wins. It has nothing to do whether they are on offense or defense.
Posted by Rotiger
Roanoke, Tx
Member since Aug 2006
460 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:49 pm to
I agree to a certain extent, but no doubt about the facts that I mentioned in my first post. The defense definitely has the upper hand in this drill due to those reasons.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:50 pm to
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The defense definitely has the upper hand in this drill due to those reasons.


no they don't

the same could be said for why the offense has the advantage
Posted by Rotiger
Roanoke, Tx
Member since Aug 2006
460 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:52 pm to
So the defense will always know the snap count of every offense we play?
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:54 pm to
the defense rarely ever takes a blocker straight on.....you think danielle hunter just runs straight at a left tackle? hell no

offensive players have more mass, therefor giving them the advantage when lining up closer.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Rotiger
Roanoke, Tx
Member since Aug 2006
460 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:57 pm to
Ofcourse, he's going to have to take on a tackle, depending on where he lines up and the defense called. Why do you think he's involved in the drill. smh
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:00 pm to
Some of y'all are thinking way too much about this big cat drill. As if this drill directly correlates into how an individual will play once the ball is snapped in live action.

Just another reason why media shouldn't get any film during these practice sessions: some idiot(s) are going to make rash generalizations about 3 separate 5 second clips of practice.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:01 pm to
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Ofcourse, he's going to have to take on a tackle, depending on where he lines up and the defense called. Why do you think he's involved in the drill


what?

a d end beats the tackle with stunts and or being faster than the tackle....they will never win a match up lining up directly in front of an offensive tackle and taking him head on. d ends make a living on sacks and tackles for loss and they do this by beating the tackle around the edge or shooting a gap

why do d ends line up outside of of the offensive tackle?
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 3:02 pm
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:03 pm to
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How about that bubble screen pass that goes past the line of scrimmage.

Intradasting


Yeah WTF…that shite would never work in the SEC

a bubble screen lateral right in the midst of 300 pound DL and LBers trying to take your head off
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10060 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:12 pm to
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a d end beats the tackle with stunts and or being faster than the tackle....they will never win a match up lining up directly in front of an offensive tackle and taking him head on. d ends make a living on sacks and tackles for loss and they do this by beating the tackle around the edge or shooting a gap


All of this. A DE tries to get a OL off balance and along with stunts uses swim/rip/bull rush to get through the OT. An OT is trying to run over a DE or to stay between him and the QB without giving up much ground. A DE is just trying to get past the OT.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
5462 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:19 pm to
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a d end beats the tackle with stunts and or being faster than the tackle....they will never win a match up lining up directly in front of an offensive tackle and taking him head on. d ends make a living on sacks and tackles for loss and they do this by beating the tackle around the edge or shooting a gap

why do d ends line up outside of of the offensive tackle?



Totally agree. If a DE was supposed to just line up and take on an OT head on why the hell are fast DEs in the NFL such a commodity? Every DE would look like Vince Wilfork if the game was actually set up like the big cat drill
Posted by Rotiger
Roanoke, Tx
Member since Aug 2006
460 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:30 pm to
Any defensive end will defintely have to take an offensive tackle on according to the offensive formation and the defense called. You're just going to have to take my word for it.
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