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re: Les Miles being treated unfairly?

Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:39 pm to
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i am not one to bash Miles at this time, only because i think the people that do or hurting our program. All the negative bs is read by others and maybe some recruits. The people doing this have so little impact on the hiring or firing of coaches but probably impacts morale more than anything. I will save my bashing after the season.


It is after the season. The season ended in January.
Posted by Dobermann
Member since Sep 2008
2038 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

I think if Miles does not beat bama


I would say Ole Miss is the game Les should have circled.

Losing 3 in a row to Ole Miss...inexcusable
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297072 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:41 pm to
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I, unlike the rest of the doom-and-gloomers, have watched enough football over the years to realize teams can't win the NC every single year.



Some of you sunshine pumpers are also incapable of recognizing average coaching and mediocre to poor play. I am not a fire Les Miles guy, but the last two years are unbelievably baffling, and I have never....and that isn't an overstatement seen such talent underutilized and poorly organized. I just hope its something Les can recover from.
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:43 pm to
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I am with you there pal...I am not foolish enough to think that LSU will be regularly contending for NCs. However, I think LSU should be able to field a team that does not seem to be completely lost.

As an LSU fan, I am only looking for some consistency in play. Unfortunately, that is not something I believe this coaching staff can provide.


When your QB can't read defenses and has a poor grasp of the game,your offense will sputter.
What are the coaches doing wrong? Be specific since you must be at practice.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Some of you sunshine pumpers are also incapable of recognizing average coaching and mediocre to poor play



DING, DING!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7083 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:46 pm to
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I suggest you stay home then. That "retarded uncle" has picked up a lot of hot women in his day (only TWO damn seasons ago). How soon we forget?


Just so you are aware, he was that same uncle then too. LSU won that championship on the back of an incredible array of luck during the entire season.

To keep using your analogy, hoping that pretty girl will be drunk enough to pick her up is not the way to a successful conquest.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12806 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:46 pm to
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Some of you sunshine pumpers are also incapable of recognizing average coaching and mediocre to poor play. I am not a fire Les Miles guy, but the last two years are unbelievably baffling, and I have never....and that isn't an overstatement seen such talent underutilized and poorly organized. I just hope its something Les can recover from.


I agree. I wasn't singling out you. But the "fire the coach every year you don't win the NC" logic is tiresome. Some of the guys here act as if we had a losing season and stayed home for bowls. As far as talent is concerned, he continues to recruit well but so does Bama, Tenn, Aub, Flor, and UGA. It's not like we are stockpiling all the talent. But losing to Ole Miss and Ark are unacceptable.
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Some of you sunshine pumpers are also incapable of recognizing average coaching and mediocre to poor play. I am not a fire Les Miles guy, but the last two years are unbelievably baffling, and I have never....and that isn't an overstatement seen such talent underutilized and poorly organized. I just hope its something Les can recover from.

Roger,be specific,how do you know it's average coaching? Once again be specific. Sense you are a coach,would Bama and UF been as successful with JJ at QB?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297072 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:47 pm to
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When your QB can't read defenses and has a poor grasp of the game,your offense will sputter.
What are the coaches doing wrong? Be specific since you must be at practice.



When you have two QB's who have been with the program for about three years now, and cannot read defenses who the hell do you blame????

Is Les just recruiting stupid players? I highly doubt it. The staff seems incapable of developing a QB that can effectively run an offense.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12806 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

luck


LMAO....what successful team hasn't had luck?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:53 pm to
Do people realize that over the course of 5 seasons Miles brought LSU to 51 wins? He then dropped the ball for an 8 win season. Improved on the record the season following that for 9 wins.

Even with one disastrous season and one lack luster season.. in order for Saban to match Miles success he has to average 9 wins for the next 2 seasons. Odds are he'll average 10-12, and edge Miles out by 3 or so wins in a 5 year period. That's not including vacated wins btw.

People act like 3-4 wins over the course of 5 seasons is a gigantic difference
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Just so you are aware, he was that same uncle then too. LSU won that championship on the back of an incredible array of luck during the entire season.

To keep using your analogy, hoping that pretty girl will be drunk enough to pick her up is not the way to a successful conquest

Kind of like Bama blocking 2 fgs,beating LSU after trailing when Jefferson and Scott get injured. What about beating Texas when trailing only to see MCCoy go down?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297072 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:55 pm to
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Roger,be specific,how do you know it's average coaching? Once again be specific. Sense you are a coach,would Bama and UF been as successful with JJ at QB?



Bama was successful with McElroy as QB last year. Hell yeah they would have been successful with JJ.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7083 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

When your QB can't read defenses and has a poor grasp of the game,your offense will sputter.
What are the coaches doing wrong? Be specific since you must be at practice.


Hey Einstein...read you own post and try your best to figure out what the coaches are doing wrong both before and during games (or seasons for that matter).

Just to make it easy for you, the first sentence is exactly what a competent coaching staff is supposed to be able to teach to these young men.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12806 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:56 pm to
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Kind of like Bama blocking 2 fgs,beating LSU after trailing when Jefferson and Scott get injured. What about beating Texas when trailing only to see MCCoy go down?


not too mention the plethora of calls they were given
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33267 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:56 pm to
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Championships are the pretty girl at the end of the bar. It's always your goal but you can't get depressed every time you don't leave with her every time you go out.
Unfortunately, LSU's pickup line is "what's your sign baby?"

I'm not looking for LSU to pick up the pretty girl every time, I'm looking for them to have game so that they are at least in the running.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12806 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:57 pm to
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Bama was successful with McElroy as QB last year. Hell yeah they would have been successful with JJ.


OL and running game might have had something to do with this. that and the fact that McElroy is light years better than JJ
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
9646 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 1:58 pm to
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Even with one disastrous season and one lack luster season.. in order for Saban to match Miles success he has to average 9 wins for the next 2 seasons. Odds are he'll average 10-12, and edge Miles out by 3 or so wins in a 5 year period. That's not including vacated losses btw.


Saban took over a program that had one winning season in the past 4 years. Miles took over a program that had two sec titles and a national title. Saban is 33-8 his first three years and miles was 35-6 (by the way if Saban just goes 10-3 next year he will have beatn the best 3 year period ever in LSU history). Saban took over two losing programs and in 8 years has 3 sec titles and 2 national titles. All Miles has to do to match him is win 2 more SEC titles and another national title in the next 3 years!
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 2:00 pm
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12806 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:00 pm to
I don't know why we constantly have to compare Miles to Saban.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7083 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:00 pm to
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Kind of like Bama blocking 2 fgs,beating LSU after trailing when Jefferson and Scott get injured. What about beating Texas when trailing only to see MCCoy go down?


Ask yourself this question...why did Miles need to go for it on 4th down so damn many times during the 07 season?
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