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re: Lee's first pick in 11-05 Bama game

Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

My point is that if Shep is to step up and be a "Go-to" receiver, he needs to sharpen his route running and be in proper position to help his QB have a good target to throw to.

Certainly but as stated above you're not going to beat your man every play. QB can't throw that pass.
Posted by acarso1
Denver, CO
Member since Sep 2010
30 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:38 pm to
Can someone put a link of the int?
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:39 pm to
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That's my exact point. He never even worked/fought to get inside. I watched the play several times. From the moment he came off the line he never even tried to get inside position. He let the corner dictate his route.


You know some times defenses cut off a receivers route? You really expect Shep to get inside the corner when he was playing inside him from the snap?

Show me multiple plays where Shep doesn't get open and I'll agree with your point. But to pick one play where a defender was playing underneath Shep is not a legit criticism.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

I'm confident Shep will turn it around this year.


I hope you are right but he has not shown much natural instinct as a receiver to date. I'd always hoped he would be a good slot receiver like Skyler was early in his career but it hasn't happened.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
76013 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

Can someone put a link of the int?


It's at 38:20
LINK


quote:

He never even worked/fought to get inside. I watched the play several times. From the moment he came off the line he never even tried to get inside position. He let the corner dictate his route.

You're also not considering that Shep's route was simply a clear out to get the safety out the way and put the receiver at the top the field in one on one.
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1938 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:45 pm to
LINK

Play starts at the 3:15 mark. CB is playing off at the snap. Shep immediately runs down the field and never tries to get inside the CB.
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1938 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

You're also not considering that Shep's route was simply a clear out to get the safety out the way and put the receiver at the top the field in one on one.


I don't think his route was a clear out at all. A seam route running the same depth as the outside receiver is not a good clear out.
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1938 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:49 pm to
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Show me multiple plays where Shep doesn't get open and I'll agree with your point.


I'm sorry, I don't have time to pour through thousands of minutes of game film. Noticed on this play he didn't even try to get inside and made that point.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

Play starts at the 3:15 mark. CB is playing off at the snap. Shep immediately runs down the field and never tries to get inside the CB.


Come on man
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
129111 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:49 pm to
JL throws another INT.
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:50 pm to
How the hell are you 06? still enjoying the BUFF
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1938 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

How the hell are you 06? still enjoying the BUFF


6 is my favorite number and was my baseball number in HS.

Do I know you?
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

I'm sorry, I don't have time to pour through thousands of minutes of game film. Noticed on this play he didn't even try to get inside and made that point.


QB misread the defense and made a poor throw. It was literally impossible for Shep to get inside the defender on that throw.

Also you do know that it not always a receivers job to get inside a corner on that route? A lot of times he's suppose to go over the top. You can't possibly look at that play and place blame on the receiver
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1938 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

JL throws another INT


Not concerned with that. Concerned with Shep's route running at WR and think that this one play may show why he hasn't excelled there despite all of his athleticism. Maybe I'm wrong and that's cool. Anyone else got a better explanation why he hasn't progressed?
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

Do I know you?


Sort of, we chatted up here when you were doing Jdam trials on the 52. I think even as far back as your flight training.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
45412 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

My point is that if Shep is to step up and be a "Go-to" receiver, he needs to sharpen his route running and be in proper position to help his QB have a good target to throw to.


like those catches against UK where he bailed Lee out on questionable throws?

LINK

unless of course, you only wanna bitch about Shep, then disregard this.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
82925 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 10:44 pm to
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FlyingTiger06

BUFF's are cool. Can't find you in the clouds when you attack Belle Glade.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 10:52 pm to
k
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1938 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 10:57 pm to
Yeah, sorry that's been a long time and too many beers ago. Yes, I still love the BUFF. I'm working in the test community now so I get to check out all the new toys/gadgets before they get to the field.
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1938 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

Can't find you in the clouds when you attack Belle Glade.


As in Belle Glade, FL? I don't think BUFFs have flown much down there in years. Used to use the Avon Park range, but not so much anymore.
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